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Old June 30th, 2012, 07:03 PM   #1
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Why do we live?



What is the point of us living?



What do we live for?



Are we just here for a short time to end in the grave?



Is there a point to human suffering?





What do you guys think?



Sometimes I wonder



I suppose my hope lies in truth and learning what else is there?
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Old July 1st, 2012, 08:58 AM   #2
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The only purpose in your life is the purpose you give it.



There is no point to human suffering because a "point" can only exist if someone creates it. I do not believe in a diety that creates human suffering therefore human suffering has no point.



Now there are sociopathic and psychopathic humans that create suffering and I'm sure that the suffering that they create has a point to them...but those are specific cases and not something that can be applied to mankind as a whole.
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Old July 1st, 2012, 09:53 AM   #3
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OK. I agree with that life is what you make it and the purpose what you give it. I think we agree on these points, but could you not create a "point" in suffering then?



I like your answer Wolf though its a rather tough one to accept when the purpose you can give life can change constantly and potentially not exist at times.
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Old July 1st, 2012, 10:22 AM   #4
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The meaning of life is to make lots of money.
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Old July 1st, 2012, 10:29 AM   #5
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The meaning of life is to make lots of money.


Great answer. It would seem so wouldn't it? Well if thats the case I have succeeded in life and yet I am still asking the question...
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You need to go to a mountain top in Tibet and chant for several years before you realize the true meaning of life.
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Old July 1st, 2012, 02:30 PM   #7
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whats the point of this forum
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Old July 1st, 2012, 02:47 PM   #8
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Good question Dusty. I have wondered the same thing. I was hoping the point was "uniting in truth" but alas it seem more like a place where you gang up on eachother and bash eachother with nothing of value to say.



Not everyone is like that, but unfortunately the more "dominant" people seem to lean in the negative direction rather than positive, which is a real shame.



This place could be so great, and instead it is becoming a place which look more like a negative facebook with friends and entertainment. That is why it is great to have people like you here Dusty, for I think you are one of the people who could make this site a better one.



With regard to the topic. The point of the topic was to discuss theories of what the purpose of life is or in other words, the greatest values, achievements or success.

Maybe even philosophy on if there is a meaning with human existance and a hope for it to progress beyond this mortal experience.
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OK. I agree with that life is what you make it and the purpose what you give it. I think we agree on these points, but could you not create a "point" in suffering then?



I like your answer Wolf though its a rather tough one to accept when the purpose you can give life can change constantly and potentially not exist at times.


of course it changes constantly. your life changes constantly. when you are 5 years old things are different to when you are 70 years old, life means something different. life changes when you have children, when you find or lose religion, why should there be a single purpose that universally applies?



it can easily happen that someone realises they have no purpose to life. sometimes this gets called depression.



i have heard people speak of the value of their suffering, that it reminds them to stay focussed on the important issues. for them, suffering has a purpose.



but this all only applies to human life. as human beings we are one kind of animal on a world with millions of other kinds of animals, and other forms of life. it is equally valid to ask what is the purpose of that blade of grasses life, or what is the meaning of a nematodes life?
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OK. I agree with that life is what you make it and the purpose what you give it. I think we agree on these points, but could you not create a "point" in suffering then?



I like your answer Wolf though its a rather tough one to accept when the purpose you can give life can change constantly and potentially not exist at times.


of course it changes constantly. your life changes constantly. when you are 5 years old things are different to when you are 70 years old, life means something different. life changes when you have children, when you find or lose religion, why should there be a single purpose that universally applies?



it can easily happen that someone realises they have no purpose to life. sometimes this gets called depression.



i have heard people speak of the value of their suffering, that it reminds them to stay focussed on the important issues. for them, suffering has a purpose.



but this all only applies to human life. as human beings we are one kind of animal on a world with millions of other kinds of animals, and other forms of life. it is equally valid to ask what is the purpose of that blade of grasses life, or what is the meaning of a nematodes life?


You did not quite understand my post, but it wasn't that important. I agree that the other questions you ask are equally valid but those were not the questions I ansked and you have to start somewhere.



What I find very curious is how people who claim not to believe in God, life after death or a moral right and wrong see a purpose in a life which can end any given moment and to them seize to continue loosing with it all its knowledge, experiences and relationships in that instant. It makes no sense and I was hoping to get an explanation from one of the atheists which would not avoid the obvious fact of death and our inability to create life.



You do more to try to comment on my comment than you do to answer the actual question, instead you merely ask more. Is this because you don't have an answer or is that because you believe that there is NO purpose to life?
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