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Old May 21st, 2013, 11:15 AM   #1
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Trust

Much in life is dependent upon trust. It is, like the air we breathe, pervasive and essential, affecting almost every aspect of human relationships and endeavors. Trust is at the heart of all personal relationships. What, in essence, is friendship but a mutual trust? Or the ties that bind a man and woman in the vow of marriage? Trust is at the core of commercial transactions. In the world of business and commerce, trust is the consideration of promise, the seal of contract and guaranty of bargained exchange. To be deemed trustworthy is to held accountable in obligation, in which a man’s word is his bond. Trust, likewise, is the basis of all agency: brokers, factors, trustees and all manner of fiduciaries are based on trust. Trust is the privilege of professional confidence: attorney and client, doctor and patient, priest and penitent - all depend on trust. Trust is very foundation of spiritual life. “In God we trust.” Trust is the substance of faith when there is nothing else to substantiate its belief. Trust may be freely given, but never taken easily; for while trust may be earned, it can only be conferred and not presumed, however deserving. Trust is pledge of duty on surety of its faithful performance. To neglect duty is a breach of trust; to act against oath is a betrayal of trust on its forfeiture, for it is fidelity that is the virtue of trust.
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The opposite of trust--GREED

The base for deception.
For taking what does not belong to one's self.
For not giving what is promised or earned.
The base for lying, stealing, cheating, killing, overeating, arguing, being lazy, overworking, denying, seeking attention, etc...

It is, like the air we breathe, pervasive and optional, affecting almost every aspect of human relationships and endeavors.

I prefer trust.
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You misquoted me: trust is not optional,it is "essential"! When you trust someone, you give them everything.
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You misquoted me: trust is not optional,it is "essential"! When you trust someone, you give them everything.
I did not quote you. Greed is most certainly optional.

I liked your post, by the way, and try to adhere to it. I simply threw in the pollution that is blackening the goodness of trust as a virtue, and what use to be a common handshake, is now a written contract on which we stamp our name.
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Yes, Kate, you're right; greed is an option. Greed is the desire for excess. It would be a vice but for its popularity. For some, there is never enough; they always want more. A virtuous person desires only what is needed to live decently, and eschews all excess. The wise want even less, for they would prefer to do without than be burdened by desire.
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The opposite of trust--GREED

The base for deception.
For taking what does not belong to one's self.
For not giving what is promised or earned.
The base for lying, stealing, cheating, killing, overeating, arguing, being lazy, overworking, denying, seeking attention, etc...

It is, like the air we breathe, pervasive and optional, affecting almost every aspect of human relationships and endeavors.

I prefer trust.
I disagree....

A greedy person can be trustworthy...

Greed is nothing more than the desire to acquire more than you have now...

What you do to fulfill that greed will determine your trustworthiness.
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Old May 21st, 2013, 11:09 PM   #7
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I disagree....

A greedy person can be trustworthy...

Greed is nothing more than the desire to acquire more than you have now...

What you do to fulfill that greed will determine your trustworthiness.
no wolf, u r intelligent so u could follow my logics ill go fast bc noone cares about truth anyways

first, there is nothing called greed, this is an invention of evil powers once they forced all to stop, but their inventions is through absolute reverse

positively in truth, there is nothing called greed like wills ends, bc will by definition cant objectively exist so its end is never
a will is the individual which is free it cant b any with infinite superiority in all ways of perceptions and perspectives

what is the phenomena of greed will that god or evil powers gives it a form for lies life ???

here i will go fast to say smthg i invent but it is more right then wrong

there are two different truth

the down one and the higher one

the down one was the conception of truth before the higher one that showed up being the truth but since before exist then it is not absolute truth while we cant talk about truth in terms of relativity but it is kind of relative of infinite absolutes, so kind of absolute life that necessitate always an epsilon
so cant b alone, so the relative is the epsilon intervention which take a dimension above absolute showing also how relative belong to higher truth in the sense that it surely matter more which justify individuals values

but higher truth in concept is the truth but as if u need to b epsilon to b in that truth so to realize that being truth
so being relative of epsilon which is relative value, i think the issue is there

the down truth is face value being everything and anything n nothing, since u can deform it n since it doesnt defend itself nor act present
but the down truth exist relatively, like all is related, the nothing the smthg the everyting to end the most positive possible always, then it stays constant a time then again the difference of levels makes it start over relating the nothing the smthg the everything precisely best possible from freedom
so down truth is for the still right, the concept of alright

it is actually the zero infinite existence

so as u can see, low truth could b perceived being the base to higher truth, which prove its value the same in that conception and i agree higher is not better

but higher in concept is the right truth bc superiority in truth include all

while evil exist then lower truth exist as low not included

that is confirmed from life that came later n not before, so it is not about time nor about mother or nature nor any reason, it is just a fact lower truth exist too alone as conscious wills, god i would say any god is low, but the lowest which is our god as animals and humans conscious, is not the worse there is worse, mayb bc lowest have a weakness to high so is not free totally n that makes it attentive to worse

watever we cant talk about what is evil anyways, so by doing so it means being doomed from evil

that is why gods cant but do in forcin extremes levels to b above each others, for the low truth to give the best results of free existence as true
which is evil and always wrong since they force it in the nonrecognition of higher truth which explain right all

higher truth is what says, that any plus truly plus more then zero so then all what is there includin self, would generate positive objective life which is existence certainty source of true realities

that is why at certain times when all is right there is always plus free coming, like also in education we know that when children are raised right they are potentially more intelligent

it is the drive to open superiority when it is possible only if, that is why that truth being a fact generated opposites levels of reactions to

now about greed

all perspective on truth would conclude its value being positive source in such infinite level and dimensions of free means, like the fact of meanin being honest make ur thoughts in positive end and u a value as a sense certain, that is why there is a lot of fake too, bc the positive is so true that it gives intentions to b in fake forms, which show the dimension of truth being infinite positive value, that is why its conception is its best invented takin into account all the main factors that matter, like principally being objective so includin itself with what is there or inn, so realisation is the principal rule

so all would think that truth value is being positive source but no

truth true value is being objective, it is incredible what that mean, it wins over all while at any time a lot could follow while it is none bc really objective n never touchin any so always free but certain living

this is the point value that also reveal evil, bc evil must b in lies so cant b constant a second, so they go thinking that truth value is positive n not constant, while no truth value is constant that they cant

this is why it is hard to not get lost from truth especially in evil being all powers, to stand consciously of what u know right is also about rights livings that u could see including urself while all evil is messin with u by its powers to treat u as animal worse condition forcin u to move in those terms

anyway

greed

greed is simply the evil that dont know the constant value of truth

so the evil who meant to abuse truth knwn objective but cant stay constant while being over relative true livings so it must keep repeating it to stay over while truth is constant dont stop since living then must mean being over all in living sense otherwise the principal mean appear as never existed

it is not that easy task to get positive life, bc it is true
so wether u must b consciously evil, so meanin to get it all so objective positive life would b only urs, meanin to kill true life
or u must consciously b constant positive source urself, so having to realize any positive sense objectively to manage its reality from outside and stand for its constancy being truly free

that is why greedy people dont like much things and lose their pleasure in being positive, bc the mean become the evil they are to kill all true living for that fake positive to sound more true competin with true, even in concept or condition or free bc truth is fact

that is why competitions is what drive people to get positive, which is the proof of all being evil life
in all honesty, if u see someone intelligent dont u like to give him credit more then findin ur wings bc he inspires u to b intelligent too ???
when u see someone quality dont u become careless about that quality for u and consider urself else???
these positive competitions wills in all means of funny life is of evil wills so for

if u see another more successful, the jaleousy u might feel is the absence of right u r becomin conscious about
jealeousy dont ever make someone succeed or gives any free wings

so competitions positive drives are not of jaleous means
while it get jaleousy to reach edges alive for evil powers life becomin of worse n rights livings destructions becomin burried dead under earth

that is how greed is the word of evil powers creations, like sayin hey we share the benefits, not equally for sure but u should not b extreme in willin to steal and to profit from objective positive opportunities
this is powers mind absolute powers mind, that concern nothing to the ground

there is noone that fill that definition they create bc it suits their business in reminding it by any occasion of possible say

while the most that are given to play being the greedy types, are the most that would testify individually becomin free so not living by what it takes at all, but they dont leave them anything to do else, while their true pleasures become in small things enjoyin themselves free evil minds with constant things around

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I disagree....

A greedy person can be trustworthy...

Greed is nothing more than the desire to acquire more than you have now...

What you do to fulfill that greed will determine your trustworthiness.
Greed is the fundamental cause for distrust!

Having an affair is greed. Cheating on a test is greed. Using someone else's time without proper compensation is greed.

It is not just acquiring more, it is taking what is not earned. It is taking advantage of someone's trust. Greed is the person on disability that is not disabled.

Greed is what we have running our country and most of the businesses we as consumers do business with.
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Greed is the fundamental cause for distrust!

Having an affair is greed. Cheating on a test is greed. Using someone else's time without proper compensation is greed.

It is not just acquiring more, it is taking what is not earned. It is taking advantage of someone's trust. Greed is the person on disability that is not disabled.

Greed is what we have running our country and most of the businesses we as consumers do business with.
the issue is not greed, while what u mean makes it worse

it is better to realize objectively what u want then to mean to force urself to do smthg else
technically, ur constant wills to repeat to urself what u shouldnt do sometimes and at other time to feel being more urself by cryin for forgiveness meanin the wrong u r even though u didnt do it, all this is worse since killin any relation to objective reality while forcin ur wills as smthg else

if u really want smthg the best way to get rid of is to have it, this is known

there is no answer but of truth, noone can b any answer to anything not even itself

when u do what u want, truth is the constant of change but positive change always, so u wont want it as before while seein smthg objectively better to do

that is how the most simple people are the most wise, bc they learn from reality without meaning it how good is normal good for everything

the issue is not greed at the first place, this is an invention to mean keepin evil rule on everything condition so the same powers are on

the issue is the will when smthg good appear objective, the issue is the reaction from knowing that positive truth exist

most of everyone seem to mean takin advantage of that as a normal thing, while it is not

truth is showin that the package came with smthg else

truth shown being positive source at the same time that another superiority went free truly superior even to that

so positive is not to take advantage of , positive is to stabilize the zero better first, then it is to think conceptions of positive source that could b useful for objective realities already existing to solve

by sayin greed is the problem, u r legalizin the will to live of positive things n killin any obligation to respect objective whole as being existing too

that is why u run shoutin that all is god knowin that this kind of god exist, but also to scare everyone with that terrorist so noone could ever mean the respect of true things being real
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the issue is not greed, while what u mean makes it worse

it is better to realize objectively what u want then to mean to force urself to do smthg else
technically, ur constant wills to repeat to urself what u shouldnt do sometimes and at other time to feel being more urself by cryin for forgiveness meanin the wrong u r even though u didnt do it, all this is worse since killin any relation to objective reality while forcin ur wills as smthg else

if u really want smthg the best way to get rid of is to have it, this is known

there is no answer but of truth, noone can b any answer to anything not even itself

when u do what u want, truth is the constant of change but positive change always, so u wont want it as before while seein smthg objectively better to do

that is how the most simple people are the most wise, bc they learn from reality without meaning it how good is normal good for everything

the issue is not greed at the first place, this is an invention to mean keepin evil rule on everything condition so the same powers are on

the issue is the will when smthg good appear objective, the issue is the reaction from knowing that positive truth exist

most of everyone seem to mean takin advantage of that as a normal thing, while it is not

truth is showin that the package came with smthg else

truth shown being positive source at the same time that another superiority went free truly superior even to that

so positive is not to take advantage of , positive is to stabilize the zero better first, then it is to think conceptions of positive source that could b useful for objective realities already existing to solve

by sayin greed is the problem, u r legalizin the will to live of positive things n killin any obligation to respect objective whole as being existing too

that is why u run shoutin that all is god knowin that this kind of god exist, but also to scare everyone with that terrorist so noone could ever mean the respect of true things being real
This is all good and well, but when you want something without taking others into consideration that it may well affect, is it really good? As real as i am to myself, each is also real to their self.
How is greed an invented word unlike any other invented word? And what word is not invented?
While satisfying the want lessens the desire, it may still impact others. And if satisfying the want creates more want then there will be no end to the amount of greed created. Greed could be defined as forcing one's will on others.
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