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Old September 20th, 2014, 08:57 AM   #21
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time after time, i've gone out of my way, time and expense, to be there for other people when they're down or in trouble.

when it's me, no one steps up, no one.
I have the same experience. I would be interested to know what you think of this post of mine:

Scripturist - Who is your neighbor?
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Old September 20th, 2014, 09:12 AM   #22
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in choosing the priest, levite and samaritan, and then making the samaritan the hero of the story, Jesus was emphasizing the difference between the letter of the law and the spirit of the law.

Jesus didn't tell his questioner who the neighbor was, he let the questioner decide.

so the neighbor is the one who shows mercy and charity. and Jesus says we should do the same, without regards to theological differences.
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Old September 20th, 2014, 09:28 AM   #23
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in choosing the priest, levite and samaritan, and then making the samaritan the hero of the story, Jesus was emphasizing the difference between the letter of the law and the spirit of the law.
Jesus never goes into detail like this. This concept of a big difference between the letter of the law and the spirit of the law is strictly a Christian idea. In fact, the letter of the law would have required the priest and the levite to help the hurt man. Jesus never opposed the letter of the law, he only opposed distortions of the law. But one thing that Jesus clearly opposed was hypocrisy which the priest and the levite were an example of in this story.

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Jesus didn't tell his questioner who the neighbor was, he let the questioner decide.
It seems clear to me that Jesus agreed with the questioner's answer.

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so the neighbor is the one who shows mercy and charity. and Jesus says we should do the same, without regards to theological differences.
Yes, but with regard to other things like ethics. Jesus never said to help everyone, only to help your neighbor, and your neighbor is the one who would help you because he is a member of a group with shared ethics.

Returning to the point of this thread, I am no longer willing to help anyone who isn't at least committed to following the Ten Commandments and is willing to help my family. The only people I know who follow the Ten Commandments are Orthodox Jews, but they aren't willing to help my family for racist reasons, so I have no neighbors and I am not willing to help anyone (outside my family).
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Jesus never goes into detail like this. This concept of a big difference between the letter of the law and the spirit of the law is strictly a Christian idea. In fact, the letter of the law would have required the priest and the levite to help the hurt man. Jesus never opposed the letter of the law, he only opposed distortions of the law. But one thing that Jesus clearly opposed was hypocrisy which the priest and the levite were an example of in this story.


It seems clear to me that Jesus agreed with the questioner's answer.


Yes, but with regard to other things like ethics. Jesus never said to help everyone, only to help your neighbor, and your neighbor is the one who would help you because he is a member of a group with shared ethics.

Returning to the point of this thread, I am no longer willing to help anyone who isn't at least committed to following the Ten Commandments and is willing to help my family. The only people I know who follow the Ten Commandments are Orthodox Jews, but they aren't willing to help my family for racist reasons, so I have no neighbors and I am not willing to help anyone (outside my family).
the teachings i have received on this parable emphasize that the samaritan was an outsider.
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the teachings i have received on this parable emphasize that the samaritan was an outsider.
All I can say is that I urge you to reconsider this. Otherwise the good life is unattainable on earth.
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All I can say is that I urge you to reconsider this. Otherwise the good life is unattainable on earth.
i've already given up on that.
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koala's sleep 18 to 22 hours a day
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koala's sleep 18 to 22 hours a day
I must be part koala.
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koala's sleep 18 to 22 hours a day
These critters can...and do...go postal if they are well and truly wild and cornered in town. I think they sleep so long so they'll have the energy to run amok.... Remember Mike Tyson refusing to hold one? He said, "Some times these things go off." He got that one right.......
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poorly educated slug that I am, when I started this thread I had no idea that this was one of the great questions considered by Aristotle.
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