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Old December 29th, 2014, 06:44 PM   #41
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yeah...but I think the idea is to personalise it. I want a Grammy...and I'm doing all I can to get one. See??? The good life...what???
That's the point.

I CAN'T "personalize" it for anyone except myself.

For myself the "good life" is being free to do what I want with who I want and allowing others to do the same.

But what others choose to do is up to them.
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Old December 29th, 2014, 07:09 PM   #42
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That's the point.

I CAN'T "personalize" it for anyone except myself.

For myself the "good life" is being free to do what I want with who I want and allowing others to do the same.

But what others choose to do is up to them.
interesting, you apparently speak a private language to yourself that is untranslatable into american english.
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Old December 29th, 2014, 07:25 PM   #43
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That's the point.

I CAN'T "personalize" it for anyone except myself.

For myself the "good life" is being free to do what I want with who I want and allowing others to do the same.

But what others choose to do is up to them.
Wolfie...we understand. What we take issue with is you ruining the sentiment in your first three lines with the last one. See????? "Merry" Christmas??? Well wishes to all??? Peace on Earth???

You say But.....

Okay.....
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Old December 30th, 2014, 07:30 AM   #44
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what i'm gettin is nwolf's idea a living a good life is to endlessly complain about people who interfere with his ability to sit around and complain.

so unless somebody interferes with his ability to complain then he has nothing to complain about and cannot live his good life.

it's a catch22, no wonder he get's so cranky.
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Old May 17th, 2015, 07:22 AM   #45
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I defer to Hemingway, I believe. "What's right is what feels good later." Or words to that effect. Panther effectively said the same thing in post #3.
yeah, what feels good later.

live without regrets. , that would be good.

what feels good at the time can certainly fool a person. what feels good later.

that could make a t shirt or bumper sticker.

"do what feels good, later"

hmm, with or without the comma?. I suppose without.
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Old June 17th, 2015, 10:43 AM   #46
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what is a good life?

can you live your life in such a way that when you lay down to die you feel content?

or is that the wrong measure?

perhaps what a good life is varies with every stage of life.

still what would the best life look like?
Maybe this is the place to put my thoughts on the words "moral", "mortal", and "morale".

I understand "moral" as a matter of cause and effect. When we put a T in the middle of it, we have death. When we add an "e" to it we have "morale" that high-spirited feeling we get when we believe we are doing the right thing. Morale comes out of being moral, that is what the "e" at the end of the word means, coming out of. The Spirit of America is high morale and goes with our liberty, which is the right to choose for ourselves the right thing to do. That decision is based on an understanding of cause and effect, and we choose the right thing because we choose for life and choose not to destroy.

As some Greeks understood our reality, we are mortals, we die. However, in our life times we effect life on earth and that effect continues. Some thought we reincarnated back into what we left behind, and this gave a motive for good moral decisions. It is a nice idea to go with democracy.

Our egos may not return, but surely we live on in our children. Research into this is suggesting this more so that we have believed, as our life experiences do effect what pass on in our genes.

So in answer to your question is I live for the future. I do not think my ego comes back, and I really hope it doesn't because I want to be different from myself today. If I come back, I don't want my old memories, but rather a whole new life experience. However, if it is that seed of my consciousness, that part that observes life, or my children and their children, I want the experience of life to be as good as possible.
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what i'm gettin is nwolf's idea a living a good life is to endlessly complain about people who interfere with his ability to sit around and complain.

so unless somebody interferes with his ability to complain then he has nothing to complain about and cannot live his good life.

it's a catch22, no wonder he get's so cranky.

Are you talking about me? I can't help it. When I am in pain or tired I get cranky. I don't not identify that as who I am, but my miserable state of being at the time. Hopefully a good nap, cup of coffee and maybe some Ibuprofen will change my state of being, and I will be the nice person I want to be.
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That's the point.

I CAN'T "personalize" it for anyone except myself.

For myself the "good life" is being free to do what I want with who I want and allowing others to do the same.

But what others choose to do is up to them.

This can be like choosing to be the rotten apple that ruins the whole barrel of apples because we are not separate from all others, and what we say do effects others. Maybe we lose our temper and yell at only one person, but how that person feels will be passed on, and passed on, same as a smile and kind word manifest good feelings that will be passed on.

Many who abuse drugs think this is a personal choice. As a mother of a son and daughter who made this "personal" choice, I know the effect of such choices are not limited to the person who makes them. Everyone who cares about them is affected, and this can make a mother's life hell on earth. It also affects their children and their children's children, and it can lead to dependence on the state, effecting all of us, at least as taxpayers.

Harmful words and deeds are like pollution entering the water we all depend on for life. When we dump negative stuff in the water, it is harmful to all.

I think we need to counteract that harm, in words and deeds that clean up the water, so good life follows.
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yeah, what feels good later.

live without regrets. , that would be good.

what feels good at the time can certainly fool a person. what feels good later.

that could make a t shirt or bumper sticker.

"do what feels good, later"

hmm, with or without the comma?. I suppose without.
this may sum up the whole dilemma of good vs evil. it's really a matter of attention span. what feels good to do in the moment may give you a lifetime of regret. and pleasure deferred can spare you a lot of pain.
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yeah, what feels good later.

live without regrets. , that would be good.

what feels good at the time can certainly fool a person. what feels good later.

that could make a t shirt or bumper sticker.

"do what feels good, later"

hmm, with or without the comma?. I suppose without.
And this is moral thinking, understanding the relationship of cause and effect.

Greek stories told of youthful folly, acting with little knowledge of cause and effect and only interested in fulfilling immediate desires.

This difference between youth and being maturity, plays a survival purpose. The youth are eager to explore new things, and if this leads to death, oh well, they are replaceable. And if the new thing turns out to be good, it can increase the survival of the group. On the other hand, maturity reduces risks taking, and if the environment changes and none take risks, all may die. As Greek stories tell us, the youth who refuse to listen to the old, may not live long enough to reflect back on life and discuss what the good life means. And maybe sometimes the old are foolish to be stuck in their ways and unwilling to change.

The good life is manifested by valuing both the young and the old.
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