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Old August 2nd, 2015, 08:48 AM   #1
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What are the purposes of Government?

when conservatives and libs are talking to each other totally askew I submit that they are missing coming to agreement on basic axioms. one of these I suggest is what are the purposes of government?.

my perspective, that of a left wing wacko converted to right wing bible thumping conservative is:

the first purpose of government is to prevent people from taking from each other willy nilly whatever they think they need or desire. contrary to what liberals surmise, property rights are fundamental to civilization.

as government evolves into higher levels a fundamental purpose should be to maximize individual liberty.

as to providing for people's basic needs, the primary responsibility must be in the individual, after that, the father of a family unit. after that charity. making government the provider is destructive to the soul of the the individual and civilization in general.
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when conservatives and libs are talking to each other totally askew I submit that they are missing coming to agreement on basic axioms. one of these I suggest is what are the purposes of government?.

my perspective, that of a left wing wacko converted to right wing bible thumping conservative is:

the first purpose of government is to prevent people from taking from each other willy nilly whatever they think they need or desire. contrary to what liberals surmise, property rights are fundamental to civilization.

as government evolves into higher levels a fundamental purpose should be to maximize individual liberty.

as to providing for people's basic needs, the primary responsibility must be in the individual, after that, the father of a family unit. after that charity. making government the provider is destructive to the soul of the the individual and civilization in general.
The purpose of government is stated in the Declaration of Independence:

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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men
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Old August 5th, 2015, 08:28 PM   #3
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when conservatives and libs are talking to each other totally askew I submit that they are missing coming to agreement on basic axioms. one of these I suggest is what are the purposes of government?.

my perspective, that of a left wing wacko converted to right wing bible thumping conservative is:

the first purpose of government is to prevent people from taking from each other willy nilly whatever they think they need or desire. contrary to what liberals surmise, property rights are fundamental to civilization.

as government evolves into higher levels a fundamental purpose should be to maximize individual liberty.

as to providing for people's basic needs, the primary responsibility must be in the individual, after that, the father of a family unit. after that charity. making government the provider is destructive to the soul of the the individual and civilization in general.
Thru out history government has never served anyone or anything besides itself. The state stands directly between us and personal freedoms. Liberty is an illusion, a word repeated in school as children are forced to pledge allegiance to a system that they don't have the capability to yet understand, that will not be honestly explained to them or the truths of its past actually reviled. The founders feared this and warned of it, yet here we are.

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Old August 14th, 2015, 10:21 AM   #4
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proper government should be an evolutionary step beyond the simple rule of the jungle that "might makes right"
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proper government should be an evolutionary step beyond the simple rule of the jungle that "might makes right"
But you don't believe in evolution.
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But you don't believe in evolution.
I don't believe in believing in science.

I accept that evolution does occur. I find it silly that people believe in evolution to the point they reject looking any further for the explanations of creation.
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I don't believe in believing in science.

I accept that evolution does occur. I find it silly that people believe in evolution to the point they reject looking any further for the explanations of creation.
Present plausible evidence of some other explanation and we'll see
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Present plausible evidence of some other explanation and we'll see
gee, I dunno....

how about we actually discuss the purposes of government on a thread about the purposes of government?
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the purpose of the president is supposed to be to defend the constitution.

that seems to have fallen by the wayside.
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The purpose of government is stated in the Declaration of Independence:
one of those rights is the right to property honestly gained.
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