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Old June 20th, 2016, 07:31 AM   #1
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The Objectivity Delusion

To be objective you need to step back and take a look at yourself. But fact is, you can never step back from yourself without taking a piece of yourself with you.
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Old October 11th, 2016, 09:15 AM   #2
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Many people who consider themselves scientists these days are arrogantly smug in their pretensions of objectivity.
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Old October 11th, 2016, 09:23 AM   #3
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I believe what you are trying to say is that the objective is subjective.
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Old April 8th, 2017, 06:48 AM   #4
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So, if anyone ever asks you , " can you be objective ?", the correct answer is always "no".
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Old April 19th, 2017, 12:36 PM   #5
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In science objectivity is always the goal and in that context a good goal. But it is common for scientists to deluded themselves into thinking they have attained the goal of perfect objectivity. As soon as they reach this erroneous conclusion they are trapped in subjective bias.
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There are just way too many facts that and experiments that disagree with your religious and political dogma so you keep making up excuses to say there is no such thing as fact.
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Old April 19th, 2017, 01:06 PM   #7
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There are just way too many facts that and experiments that disagree with your religious and political dogma so you keep making up excuses to say there is no such thing as fact.
I do not claim there is no such thing as fact. Just because a person is biased doesn't prove them wrong.

Many times objective is a good goal in addressing a question, problem, or hypothesis. You get closer to becoming more objective by recognizing that as a human being some subjective bias always remains.
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There are just way too many facts that and experiments that disagree with your religious and political dogma so you keep making up excuses to say there is no such thing as fact.
Just because a person can never be perfectly objective does not mean objective reality does not exist.
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I do not claim there is no such thing as fact. Just because a person is biased doesn't prove them wrong.

Many times objective is a good goal in addressing a question, problem, or hypothesis. You get closer to becoming more objective by recognizing that as a human being some subjective bias always remains.
2 + 2 = 4

What subjective bias do I bring to that statement?
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Old May 23rd, 2017, 07:02 AM   #10
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2 + 2 = 4

What subjective bias do I bring to that statement?
Mathematics are an abstraction not objective reality by itself. To see subjectivity we need to observe the reality your equation attempts to model.

It might be 2 apples plus 2 oranges equals 4 pieces of fruit.

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