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Old May 20th, 2017, 12:59 AM   #41
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In another thread, a US soldier was called a hero because he was killed in combat. I maintain that's a political definition of a hero.

First of all, no one is in the military who didn't want to be in it. A volunteer military is vastly different from a conscripted military. In a conscripted military, people take time out from their lives to serve in the military. In an all-volunteer force, being in the military is a central part of their lives, and their futures.

Everyone who's in the military is there because they want to be there.

Next, the world has never had a shortage of politicians who bravely fight wars with other people's children for the sake of the mother/father/homeland. Yeah....

So we are involved in a war, a war the 911 Saudis started, with a nation that poses no threat to the US ... again, and one of our volunteer soldiers was killed in the botched raid on Trump's watch, and automatically he's a hero?

Why is he a hero?

What is a hero in 21st Century America?
Are these the same heroes the Veterans Administration is cutting benefits to? I get the feeling whenever I would hear "fallen heroes" so often back Afghanistan and Iraq were active, that "hero" means "sucker willing to sacrifice his life for our benefit" to the business and political leaders who profit from war. Everyone should read the classic book from the 1930's by Maj. General Smedley Butler - "War Is A Racket"...pretty much says it all!

I've been told by a cousin of mine who lives in Florida that (as of five years ago) there's a large homeless encampment just outside of Orlando, made up mostly of PTSD veterans who can't afford housing. The police usually leave them alone as long as they stay out of the way and don't spend too much time in town. Aside from that, that's about it for respecting "heroes!"

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Possible definitions of a hero:

1. Someone who goes to the aid of others in spite of known personal risk.

2. Someone who is admired and we aspire to emulate.

3. The protagonist of a narrative, possibly fictional.

4. Someone who perseveres through suffering.

5. Someone who sets a good example.
Spider-man is the greatest hero. Fits all the definitions.
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Spider-man is the greatest hero. Fits all the definitions.
He's....NOT...real.
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He's....NOT...real.
See definition number 3.
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He's....NOT...real.
I think that maybe all heroes are in a sense fictional. When we admire someone for some heroic act it is unlikely that we witnessed the act ourselves. Most of the time we really only know a third hand story about the event. Stories are never perfect and neither are the listeners to such stories. Our biases are very much in play and we give more credence and more hero worship to those stories that give service to our biases.

Who we pick as a hero says more about us than the individual we choose as a hero, fictional or not.
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