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Old October 28th, 2017, 04:30 PM   #1
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Suicide

The prevailing idea in our society is that suicide is morally wrong, cowardly, the "easy way out", and is a violation of the "sanctity of life." However, would it be wrong to say that this is an oversimplification? If one does not see any value in their own life, and therefore has no will to live, why should we blame them? If "living is harder than dying" than why do many people fail to go through with suicide? I do not believe that suicide is necessarily wrong or right. It's a choice, like anything else. If I have agency and autonomy, then why shouldn't these rights be applicable in whether or not I want to live?

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Old October 28th, 2017, 04:50 PM   #2
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Morally wrong?

Yes

Cowardly?

Depends

Easy way out?

No
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Old October 28th, 2017, 04:52 PM   #3
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Killing yourself is definitely a brave act. I don't see how it's cowardly. Choosing to assert control over your own life/death isn't cowardly at all.
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Suicide is morally wrong because you are imposing the pain you are in on other people.
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Old October 28th, 2017, 05:00 PM   #5
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Suicide is morally wrong because you are imposing the pain you are in on other people.
That's true. At the same time, I'm not going to judge someone who commits suicide. They clearly thought that death was preferable to whatever situation they were in. I don't know what was in their head that drove them to that point.
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I wouldn’t bet the rent that someone suicidal was thinking “clearly”.
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Old October 28th, 2017, 05:31 PM   #7
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I knew an alcoholic couple who'd been drinking a long time. To the outside world, they were normal enough, the man an engineer for NASA, and the lady a housewife, but fairly active in her community.

The man announced he was quitting alcohol, and he did. He hasn't drunk to this day, and this was 30-some years ago. The lady didn't quit. She at first said she was happy her hubby quit, but slowly she appeared to be losing her happiness over a sober husband.

One day they were having a really minor argument, and out of nowhere the wife yells at the husband, "You know Jack James, I liked you much better when you were a drunk."

He moved out. I would have moved out too. Over the next few months, she quit alcohol.

I got a call. Chloe had sat on the living room couch, where I'd sat dozens of times, put a .357 to her chest, and scattered herself all over the wall. She left behind two daughters and five grandchildren.

No matter how hard I try, I can't see that as an act of bravery. Maybe it's just me, and that I was very close to this couple and their children and grandchildren.
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I knew an alcoholic couple who'd been drinking a long time. To the outside world, they were normal enough, the man an engineer for NASA, and the lady a housewife, but fairly active in her community.

The man announced he was quitting alcohol, and he did. He hasn't drunk to this day, and this was 30-some years ago. The lady didn't quit. She at first said she was happy her hubby quit, but slowly she appeared to be losing her happiness over a sober husband.

One day they were having a really minor argument, and out of nowhere the wife yells at the husband, "You know Jack James, I liked you much better when you were a drunk."

He moved out. I would have moved out too. Over the next few months, she quit alcohol.

I got a call. Chloe had sat on the living room couch, where I'd sat dozens of times, put a .357 to her chest, and scattered herself all over the wall. She left behind two daughters and five grandchildren.

No matter how hard I try, I can't see that as an act of bravery. Maybe it's just me, and that I was very close to this couple and their children and grandchildren.
She chose death, something that she had never experienced, over her illness (alcoholism and depression). That's pretty brave. Not saying it was right, but I don't think that's cowardly at all. Nor is it an easy choice. I mean, she left behind children and grandchildren. Pretty sure that wasn't easy.

It wasn't until I was in that mind state that I learned not to judge people who were.

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If you choose suicide there’s lots kinder ways than leaving a gross bloody mess that traumatizes people.
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