Political Forums  

Go Back   Defending The Truth Political Forum > Political Forum > Political Humor

Political Humor Political Humor Forum - Have something politically funny to share? We like political cartoons and satire!


Thanks Tree23Thanks
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old June 23rd, 2017, 08:04 AM   #11
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: massachusetts
Posts: 8,200
Quote:
Originally Posted by justoneman View Post
Obama care is horrible and you know it. Its going bust. Many states with no insurance companies participating or just one. It is falling apart as we speak. It was well know from the start it would fall apart too.

Frankly I do not understand why on earth I would not be allowed to engage any insurance company I want and buy whatever product I wish to.
How do you pay for people who need health care but don't have insurance?
goober is online now  
Old June 23rd, 2017, 08:45 AM   #12
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Katmandu
Posts: 4,925
Quote:
Originally Posted by goober View Post
ObamaCare is still the best politically feasible plan available.
The GOP plan is a nightmare.
Which is why the GOP plan does nothing until a couple of elections down the road.

People didn't vote to repeal ObamaCare, they voted for better coverage and lower premiums.
Too bad Obamacare isn't economically feasible.
Libertine is offline  
Old June 23rd, 2017, 09:25 AM   #13
Senior Member
 
Clara007's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Arizona
Posts: 6,366
Quote:
Originally Posted by justoneman View Post
If it removes the mandate to purchase insurance then it is a repeal and replace. Obamacare was all about the mandate forcing people to participate.


If it removes the mandate (individual and employer) prices will skyrocket. That's exactly what's going to happen with the GOP plan. The whole theory is based on healthy insurees. Young people. Healthy Americans MUST be part of an affordable plan.

Americans in their 50s and early 60s benefited from Obamacare because insurers could only charge them three times more than younger policyholders. The bill would widen that band to five-to-one.
That would mean that adults ages 60 to 64 would see their annual premiums soar 22% to nearly $18,000, according to the Milliman study for the AARP. Those in their 50s would be hit with a 13% increase and pay an annual premium of $12,800.
What's more, the Senate bill would provide less generous subsidies to older folks who are eligible for assistance. Those in their early 60s would have to pay up to 16.2% of their income towards coverage, compared to a maximum of 6.4% for 20-somethings.
Fewer middle class Americans would qualify for subsidies. The Senate bill would tighten the eligibility criteria for premium subsidies starting in 2020, shutting out more middle class folks from government help.
Clara007 is online now  
Old June 23rd, 2017, 09:38 AM   #14
Celebrating diversity
 
Sabcat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Earth
Posts: 21,024
Quote:
Originally Posted by goober View Post
How do you pay for people who need health care but don't have insurance?
"You" don't.

The end.

Or YOU can and I don't.
Thanks from caconservative

Last edited by Sabcat; June 23rd, 2017 at 09:44 AM.
Sabcat is offline  
Old June 23rd, 2017, 09:43 AM   #15
Celebrating diversity
 
Sabcat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Earth
Posts: 21,024
Quote:
Originally Posted by Clara007 View Post
If it removes the mandate (individual and employer) prices will skyrocket. That's exactly what's going to happen with the GOP plan. The whole theory is based on healthy insurees. Young people. Healthy Americans MUST be part of an affordable plan.

Americans in their 50s and early 60s benefited from Obamacare because insurers could only charge them three times more than younger policyholders. The bill would widen that band to five-to-one.
That would mean that adults ages 60 to 64 would see their annual premiums soar 22% to nearly $18,000, according to the Milliman study for the AARP. Those in their 50s would be hit with a 13% increase and pay an annual premium of $12,800.
What's more, the Senate bill would provide less generous subsidies to older folks who are eligible for assistance. Those in their early 60s would have to pay up to 16.2% of their income towards coverage, compared to a maximum of 6.4% for 20-somethings.
Fewer middle class Americans would qualify for subsidies. The Senate bill would tighten the eligibility criteria for premium subsidies starting in 2020, shutting out more middle class folks from government help.


Fuck em. They should have taken better care of themselves.


Surprise surprise the generation that brought us TV dinners, put corn syrup in everything and covered all of the crops in poison is dramatically unhealthy.

Tick tock.
Sabcat is offline  
Old June 23rd, 2017, 10:38 AM   #16
Spud
 
foundit66's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: California
Posts: 5,669
Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by Clara007 View Post
If it removes the mandate (individual and employer) prices will skyrocket. That's exactly what's going to happen with the GOP plan. The whole theory is based on healthy insurees. Young people. Healthy Americans MUST be part of an affordable plan.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sabcat View Post
Fuck em. They should have taken better care of themselves.
Surprise surprise the generation that brought us TV dinners, put corn syrup in everything and covered all of the crops in poison is dramatically unhealthy.
Tick tock.
This is a perfect example of how some conservatives / Republicans are just too emotional / non-thinking for our own good.

As Clara007 pointed out, there is a universal impact upon U.S. citizens if we don't improve our healthcare system.

But Sabcat approaches the system from an emotional tantrum perspective, thinking others should be left to suffer. Completely oblivious (and incapable of learning) how that impacts all of us.
But of course, there will be the Republican party line trying to blame the liberal boogeyman for the problem, with absolutely no intelligent recognition of the fundamental rot in the system itself.

We're all on this boat together.
Pretending that the people in the 50s and 60s are somewhere else on the boat with holes in their section of the boat which won't affect us is stunted thinking.
Thanks from RNG and Clara007
foundit66 is offline  
Old June 23rd, 2017, 11:07 AM   #17
Celebrating diversity
 
Sabcat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Earth
Posts: 21,024
Quote:
Originally Posted by foundit66 View Post
This is a perfect example of how some conservatives / Republicans are just too emotional / non-thinking for our own good.

As Clara007 pointed out, there is a universal impact upon U.S. citizens if we don't improve our healthcare system.

But Sabcat approaches the system from an emotional tantrum perspective, thinking others should be left to suffer. Completely oblivious (and incapable of learning) how that impacts all of us.
But of course, there will be the Republican party line trying to blame the liberal boogeyman for the problem, with absolutely no intelligent recognition of the fundamental rot in the system itself.

We're all on this boat together.
Pretending that the people in the 50s and 60s are somewhere else on the boat with holes in their section of the boat which won't affect us is stunted thinking.

A... i am not a Republican

B...how is me thinking that people should be responsible for themselves an "emotional argument"?

It is completely pragmatic
Sabcat is offline  
Old June 23rd, 2017, 11:45 AM   #18
Banned
 
League of Justice's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Mood Indigo
Posts: 296
Obama has ZERO credibility on this as it was he who made numerous claims about Obamacare which were flat out lies. Obama LOL
League of Justice is offline  
Old June 23rd, 2017, 11:46 AM   #19
Banned
 
League of Justice's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Mood Indigo
Posts: 296
Quote:
Originally Posted by goober View Post
How do you pay for people who need health care but don't have insurance?

Medicaid, been around a long time.
League of Justice is offline  
Old June 23rd, 2017, 11:51 AM   #20
Spud
 
foundit66's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: California
Posts: 5,669
Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sabcat View Post
A... i am not a Republican
Are you conservative?
I said: "conservatives / Republicans"


Quote:
Originally Posted by Sabcat View Post
B...how is me thinking that people should be responsible for themselves an "emotional argument"?
First off, if that was actually what you had said, I would have replied differently.
But of course, like always your position is changing when it gets inconvenient for you.

Secondly, it ignores the fact that their problems impact you, regardless of whether or not you want them to. They impact all of us.
So you saying "Fuck em." is a meaninglessly myopic trantrum. If you could successfully segregate their problems so that they did not impact you, then at least your position could start to have some intelligence to it.
Without that, you're talking about cutting off your nose to spite your face.
Thanks from RNG
foundit66 is offline  
Reply

  Defending The Truth Political Forum > Political Forum > Political Humor

Tags
bill, care, health, obama, senate



Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Obama set to sign health care 'fixes' bill CNN Current Events 2 March 30th, 2010 09:10 AM
Historic health care bill heads to Obama CNN Current Events 2 March 22nd, 2010 09:27 AM
Senate sets up final vote on health care bill CNN Current Events 1 December 22nd, 2009 04:56 AM
A key Senate committee just passed a health care reform bill! intangible child Healthcare 2 October 17th, 2009 09:23 AM
Obama might detail what he wants in health care bill CNN Current Events 2 September 2nd, 2009 10:01 AM


Facebook Twitter RSS Feed



Copyright © 2005-2013 Defending The Truth. All rights reserved.