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Old November 1st, 2015, 05:54 AM   #51
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You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor[i] and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you.... -- Jesus Christ

And therein rests the dysfunction and hypocrisy of Western culture.
Yep. Even Christianity has been perverted in order to conform to capitalism.
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Old November 1st, 2015, 06:03 AM   #52
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That's the Golden Rule of Western culture. Those who can accumulate the gold get to rule.
It's been onward Christian soldiers since Constantine.
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Yep. Even Christianity has been perverted in order to conform to capitalism.
Without doubt, e.g. LW's NIV God, but the perversion has been going on for much longer than the appearance of the NIV Bible.

Capitalism apparently channels channels human greed "efficiently," but that's an illusion. Capitalism's greed-driven economic engine has a serious flaw.

Capitalism require ceaseless population growth. Ceaseless population growth on a finite planet with finite resources presents an insurmountable challenge.

Even the most dynamic economy on Earth, China, has relaxed its one-child policy because the population isn't growing fast enough to sustain the economic growth of its capitalist-socialist system. More young people are needed.
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Old November 1st, 2015, 06:35 AM   #54
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Without doubt, e.g. LW's NIV God, but the perversion has been going on for much longer than the appearance of the NIV Bible.

Capitalism apparently channels channels human greed "efficiently," but that's an illusion. Capitalism's greed-driven economic engine has a serious flaw.

Capitalism require ceaseless population growth. Ceaseless population growth on a finite planet with finite resources presents an insurmountable challenge.

Even the most dynamic economy on Earth, China, has relaxed its one-child policy because the population isn't growing fast enough to sustain the economic growth of its capitalist-socialist system. More young people are needed.
How is the NIV Bible bad?
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Yep, trillions is fantasy, but otherwise Gordy listed the deaths attributable to capitalist economic engines, enforced by the governments and blessed by the churches: slavery, war, colonization, homelessness, poor working/living conditions, and we can add environmental destruction. Are you denying that countries with capitalist economic engines have engaged in all of the above?
Are you denying that the major Socialist Nations throughout History have suffered from the same issues?
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Old November 1st, 2015, 08:06 AM   #56
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Yep. Even Christianity has been perverted in order to conform to capitalism.
Only parts of it, and as far as the NIV version goes that's just being used as the whipping boy.

The truth is that the doctrines of the ugly parts of so called "christianity" can be (in heir minds) justified from any version of the Bible currently being used, yes even the King James.

The real problem is that the sects of "chritianity" (yes, small c) have the most money and therefore they are able to put their little circuses on TV.
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a successful capitalist society requires that people behave morally, slavery is not moral, slavery is not consistent with capitalism
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a successful capitalist society requires that people behave morally, slavery is not moral, slavery is not consistent with capitalism
The problem now is that the word "moral" no longer has a black and white definition.
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Old November 1st, 2015, 09:16 AM   #59
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a successful capitalist society requires that people behave morally, slavery is not moral, slavery is not consistent with capitalism
How in the world can you say that? What drive is there for capitalists to behave morally?

What drives capitalism is profits. I'm not saying that's bad, but it does not have anything to do with morals.
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How in the world can you say that? What drive is there for capitalists to behave morally?

What drives capitalism is profits. I'm not saying that's bad, but it does not have anything to do with morals.
He didn't say that Capitalism drives people to be moral he said that in order for it to work properly people MUST be moral.
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