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Old November 12th, 2015, 10:54 AM   #11
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Just another rich Jew pushing his ideas of stealing from the middle class and poor.
Fixed it for you.
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Old November 12th, 2015, 10:57 AM   #12
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More Libertarian stuff. I respect your right to be a Libertarian, but don't applaud your intellectual dishonesty in owning it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_von_Mises



Just another rich guy pushing his ideas of stealing from the middle class and poor.

For the record, I'm NOT Libertarian, so I vehemently disagree.
You left this out.


From 1913 to 1934 Mises was an unpaid professor at the University of Vienna while working as an economist for the Vienna Chamber of Commerce, in which capacity he served as the principal economic adviser to the Austrian government. To avoid the Nazi influence in his Austrian homeland, in 1934 Mises left for Geneva, where he was a professor at the Graduate Institute of International Studies until he emigrated to New York City in 1940. He was a visiting professor at New York University from 1945 until he retired in 1969.

Mises’s ideas—on economic reasoning and on economic policy—were out of fashion during the Keynesian revolution that took over American economic thinking from the mid-1930s to the 1960s. Mises’s upset at the Keynesian revolution and at Hitler’s earlier destruction of his homeland made Mises bitter from the late 1940s on. The contrast between his early view of himself as a mainstream member of his profession and his later view of himself as an outcast shows up starkly in The Theory of Money and Credit. The first section, written in 1912, is calmly argued; the last section, added in the 1940s, is strident.

Mises had a strong influence on young people. The resurgent Austrian school in the United States owes itself in no small part to Mises’s persistence.


But I'm sure you left this out intentionally



Another of Mises’s notable contributions is his claim that socialism must fail economically. In a 1920 article, Mises argued that a socialist government could not make the economic calculations required to organize a complex economy efficiently. Although socialist economists Oskar Lange and Abba Lerner disagreed with him, modern economists agree that Mises’s argument, combined with Hayek’s elaboration of it, is correct (see socialism).


Or maybe it just wasn't on alternet or KOS


http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/bios/Mises.html


But hey Keynes has been working out fantastic!!
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Old November 12th, 2015, 11:07 AM   #13
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Right on. I love lectures.

I fear that this mentality is how we got on the road we are on now. Once that line has been crossed the grey area becomes so vast that almost anything can be justified as the "needs of the many" in this the sovereignty of the individual becomes blurred or even lost.
The reverse is true.

Almost anything can be justified as the "needs of the few."

It's the dynamic balance between the two that's called "Civilization." Neither set of needs can be wished away.
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Old November 12th, 2015, 11:12 AM   #14
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The reverse is true.

Almost anything can be justified as the "needs of the few."

It's the dynamic balance between the two that's called "Civilization." Neither set of needs can be wished away.
Exactly, and mankind often uses the constitution or similar set or rules as the guideline and the courts as the arbitrator of disputes.

How would it be handled in an anarchy?
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Exactly, and mankind often uses the constitution or similar set or rules as the guideline and the courts as the arbitrator of disputes.

How would it be handled in an anarchy?
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Old November 12th, 2015, 11:22 AM   #16
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Exactly, and mankind often uses the constitution or similar set or rules as the guideline and the courts as the arbitrator of disputes.

How would it be handled in an anarchy?
Just because I posted it doesn't mean that the views are primarily anarchistic. These are ideals that have been held by humans for centuries.
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The reverse is true.

Almost anything can be justified as the "needs of the few."

It's the dynamic balance between the two that's called "Civilization." Neither set of needs can be wished away.
IMO the liberties of the individual trump the needs of the hive.
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IMO the liberties of the individual trump the needs of the hive.
You are going to have to be very careful in your definition of "liberties". Are you at liberty to just take anything you want from anyone who currently has it? And if not, on what basis?
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You are going to have to be very careful in your definition of "liberties". Are you at liberty to just take anything you want from anyone who currently has it? And if not, on what basis?
Or, how about my starting a hog farm right next to your house, on land that belonged to my grandpappy, the land on the creek upstream from your land on the creek?

Should you just shoot me, or what?
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Or, how about my starting a hog farm right next to your house, on land that belonged to my grandpappy, the land on the creek upstream from your land on the creek?

Should you just shoot me, or what?
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