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Old November 12th, 2015, 09:19 PM   #41
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Or, how about my starting a hog farm right next to your house, on land that belonged to my grandpappy, the land on the creek upstream from your land on the creek?

Should you just shoot me, or what?
That's a simple answer. Lets apply the tried and tested questionnaire to this.

Does it violate your right to life?
Does it violate your liberty?
Does it stop your pursuit of happiness?

I am guessing your implying that the hog farm would allow wash off into the creek, thus ending up on your property or your stretch of the creek. Then, your right, pursuit of happiness and probably even a good argument of life would be violated. He would be tainting your property.

Now, if were just talking about the smell of the hogs. I would see where you would think violation of pursuit of happiness. But, it would be wrong. You cant be violated by nature. You could claim it wouldn't happen if his hogs was not on that land. But, you would be violating his pursuit of happiness by telling him he cant have hogs on his own land.

That is how I would see it
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Old November 12th, 2015, 09:36 PM   #42
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Psychopaths are the next step in evolution. Hell, there's a whole lotta evolving' goin' on.

Those are fundamentalists. Sociopaths.

From my understanding sociopaths are learned and psychopaths are born.
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Old November 12th, 2015, 10:55 PM   #43
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Or, how about my starting a hog farm right next to your house, on land that belonged to my grandpappy, the land on the creek upstream from your land on the creek?

Should you just shoot me, or what?
That is legal in my rural farming community (zoned agricultural) but the rich doctors and lawyers that have built their mansions here will be crying on deaf ears. I raised hogs many years ago and thought about doing that again just to piss them off but hogs take a lot of work and care.
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Old November 13th, 2015, 04:22 AM   #44
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Why should the collectivism/individualism question be reduced down to an either/or choice?
No, Collectivism is where others (such as government) makes your choices for you.


Individualism is where you make your own choices.
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