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Old May 5th, 2016, 07:35 PM   #1
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idiot. i hope you fall in a pit and no one helps you.
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Here it is:





First some 80s music to set the tone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNYcviXK4rg

With the tone set, let me tell you what I think about you.

I don't care about you. I don't care what you believe, what you think, what you feel, or what you do. I don't care if you live or die. In the spirit of the Talmud, I wouldn't push you into a pit, but I wouldn't pull you out either. If I saw you in a pit, I would leave you there to die.

But as opposed to the Talmud, my division of who I would help and who I wouldn't depends on whether you belong to a moral group. If you are a Mikraite or a traditional Anabaptist, I would help you. Or if you belong to some other moral group, and convince me that that group is moral, then I would help you. The rest of humanity can go to hell.

A popular topic on this forum is Nazism. Germany lost a lot of morality in the 1920s, but it wasn't completely lost. The Germans were still basically moral people when they elected Hitler, they were just misguided. This applies to Hitler himself who was clearly intelligent and a man of integrity, but badly misguided on certain topics like Judaism. Now it's worth contrasting Nazi Germany with the modern Right. Instead of Hitler, the modern American Right champions Trump, an adulterous psychopath who couldn't care less about any principles. And this is because modern culture no longer has a shred of morality left. The future leaders of the West aren't men like Hitler, but rather men like Mao and Nero.

The practical implication of this is that there will be no future holocaust. It makes no difference what the Western morons believe, even if they all hate Jews or some other group. This is because they are too stupid to support a leader who would actually do anything other than enrich himself. Trump is proof of this. So all of you are welcome to hate Jews, Mikraites, or any other group I belong to. I just don't care what you believe because I know that you are too stupid to do anything about your own beliefs.
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We literally don't care.
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Feels so powerful, doesn't it? Self-appointing ourselves to the position of the Spokesperson for We.
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I used to get that with that we shit when I'd write an editorial for the newspaper. "We believe ... blah, blah, blah ... and we question blah, blah blah ... therefore we must say that blah, blah blah....."
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First some 80s music to set the tone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNYcviXK4rg

With the tone set, let me tell you what I think about you.

I don't care about you. I don't care what you believe, what you think, what you feel, or what you do. I don't care if you live or die. In the spirit of the Talmud, I wouldn't push you into a pit, but I wouldn't pull you out either. If I saw you in a pit, I would leave you there to die.

But as opposed to the Talmud, my division of who I would help and who I wouldn't depends on whether you belong to a moral group. If you are a Mikraite or a traditional Anabaptist, I would help you. Or if you belong to some other moral group, and convince me that that group is moral, then I would help you. The rest of humanity can go to hell.

A popular topic on this forum is Nazism. Germany lost a lot of morality in the 1920s, but it wasn't completely lost. The Germans were still basically moral people when they elected Hitler, they were just misguided. This applies to Hitler himself who was clearly intelligent and a man of integrity, but badly misguided on certain topics like Judaism. Now it's worth contrasting Nazi Germany with the modern Right. Instead of Hitler, the modern American Right champions Trump, an adulterous psychopath who couldn't care less about any principles. And this is because modern culture no longer has a shred of morality left. The future leaders of the West aren't men like Hitler, but rather men like Mao and Nero.

The practical implication of this is that there will be no future holocaust. It makes no difference what the Western morons believe, even if they all hate Jews or some other group. This is because they are too stupid to support a leader who would actually do anything other than enrich himself. Trump is proof of this. So all of you are welcome to hate Jews, Mikraites, or any other group I belong to. I just don't care what you believe because I know that you are too stupid to do anything about your own beliefs.
I would never leave someone to die.

That itself would be illegal, not to mention obviously immoral. The law to me is the ultimate moral guide. In any liberal democracy the Rule of Law is one of the most fundamental aspects of our way of life, and we must cherish that. Obviously the law doesn't cover everything, but in most scenarios I try to stick to the law as fully as I am capable, especially when no one is looking.

And the German people were not moral when they elected Hitler (I am saying this both as someone who studies history and as someone with strong connections to his German heritage). They were racist, anti-democratic and militaristic.

If they didn't want Hitler specifically then they wanted someone with very similar policies. Conservative factions in the Reichstag were always the most prominent, only being stopped from creating a majority by the influence of the Social democrats and the divide between Lutherans and Catholics that drove people into the arms of religious parties like the Catholic Centre Party. President Hindenburg and his cabinet for years ran the Republic with emergency powers, turning the country into a militaristic, authoritarian oligarchy. And they themselves were outspoken proponents of the "stabbed in the back" mythology.

I hate people who run around screaming about the terrible nature of people, or just people today. I have faith in humanity. That's one of the reasons why I joined the military. I believe people are good and I think they're not as ignorant, selfish or misguided as some would have us believe. The American people will make the right decision. Or, if they make the wrong one, I'm confident someone prominent will lose their job over it.

Lastly, Mao and Nero were not apathetic sadists. Mao was a man who believed in what he was doing and cared about creating a utopia, it's just that he was ruthless and idiotic in his dreaming and execution of attempting it. Nero was mentally unstable and had little concern for or power in Roman politics. He could barely comprehend basic math let alone run an entire Empire. He was sick. He was a sick boy who never really got to grow up.
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I would never leave someone to die.

That itself would be illegal, not to mention obviously immoral. The law to me is the ultimate moral guide. In any liberal democracy the Rule of Law is one of the most fundamental aspects of our way of life, and we must cherish that. Obviously the law doesn't cover everything, but in most scenarios I try to stick to the law as fully as I am capable, especially when no one is looking.

And the German people were not moral when they elected Hitler (I am saying this both as someone who studies history and as someone with strong connections to his German heritage). They were racist, anti-democratic and militaristic.

If they didn't want Hitler specifically then they wanted someone with very similar policies. Conservative factions in the Reichstag were always the most prominent, only being stopped from creating a majority by the influence of the Social democrats and the divide between Lutherans and Catholics that drove people into the arms of religious parties like the Catholic Centre Party. President Hindenburg and his cabinet for years ran the Republic with emergency powers, turning the country into a militaristic, authoritarian oligarchy. And they themselves were outspoken proponents of the "stabbed in the back" mythology.

I hate people who run around screaming about the terrible nature of people, or just people today. I have faith in humanity. That's one of the reasons why I joined the military. I believe people are good and I think they're not as ignorant, selfish or misguided as some would have us believe. The American people will make the right decision. Or, if they make the wrong one, I'm confident someone prominent will lose their job over it.

Lastly, Mao and Nero were not apathetic sadists. Mao was a man who believed in what he was doing and cared about creating a utopia, it's just that he was ruthless and idiotic in his dreaming and execution of attempting it. Nero was mentally unstable and had little concern for or power in Roman politics. He could barely comprehend basic math let alone run an entire Empire. He was sick. He was a sick boy who never really got to grow up.
When I was your age, I thought somewhat like you. Then I experienced life.

Ironically you probably would have made a great Hitler Youth. You are so nationalistic and enthusiastic about following rules. This is one area that I was never like you. I only have loyalty to what makes sense to me, and follow rules that make sense to me. I have zero respect for my nation and for its laws.

What is moral is subjective, and you call Nazi Germany immoral because its morals differ from yours. When I say that the Germans were moral, I don't mean that they had my morality, but rather that at least they had some kind of morality which at least made them treat each other with some basic level of decency. The West today has no form of morality at all.

I disagree with racism, but I don't see it as immoral as much as misguided. Orthodox Judaism has about the same level of racism as Nazism had. Racism is much like your nationalism, a form allegiance that makes no sense.

By the way, have you read Mein Kampf? You should. Hitler was much more intelligent than most leaders today (except maybe Putin). I think Hitler's anti-democratic and militaristic sentiments were well justified by the circumstances at that time.

I have no faith in humanity, of course. You just need to experience more life to see this. It is also worth noting that all moral religions in history share this view. Before Christianity went to hell (in the 1800s), it also had no faith in humanity. Of all people today, Americans are the absolute worst, the scum of the earth.

Based on your comments on Mao, I think you also need to learn some more history. Mao was a pure opportunist who never cared about anyone but himself (just like Trump). I know this not only from history but also from my Chinese friends.
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