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Old October 7th, 2017, 12:37 AM   #71
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There was a time when the overwhelming majority of country music singers were conservative / right.

The first country singer I heard go left was Willie Nelson when he endorsed Jimmy Carter. Merle Haggard was conservative until the mid 2000s and he lost his damn mind (probably senility.)

Older country music was America's music. The songs told the story from the POV of the traditional American... right / white / Christian. As the country has changed, so has the music, the message and the willingness of its singers to sell out to the left.
I said before that country music seems a lot more rightwing now than it was 30 or 40 years ago...at least when it comes to all the pro-war flag-waving crappola!

Willie Nelson always was a pot-smoking hippie! You say he went left! Endorsing Jimmy Carter was a sign that he was becoming mainstream.
Merle Haggard kept touring all his life, and saw a lot of things he didn't like and wasn't afraid to say it even if the business end of the country music business didn't like it....he never "lost his mind," he kept using it through his life, unlike typical conservatives!

How white and christian were Hank Williams's songs? If you're talking early country music, go back to the 30's when the Carter Family were big stars. They had signs specifically posted at the entrance to concert halls they performed in that concert-goers were attending a Christian performance and were expected to abide by Christian principles upon entering: no drinking, no smoking, no swearing, no fighting....because all that was common at the average bluegrass and country event.
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I said before that country music seems a lot more rightwing now than it was 30 or 40 years ago...at least when it comes to all the pro-war flag-waving crappola!

Willie Nelson always was a pot-smoking hippie! You say he went left! Endorsing Jimmy Carter was a sign that he was becoming mainstream.
Merle Haggard kept touring all his life, and saw a lot of things he didn't like and wasn't afraid to say it even if the business end of the country music business didn't like it....he never "lost his mind," he kept using it through his life, unlike typical conservatives!

How white and christian were Hank Williams's songs? If you're talking early country music, go back to the 30's when the Carter Family were big stars. They had signs specifically posted at the entrance to concert halls they performed in that concert-goers were attending a Christian performance and were expected to abide by Christian principles upon entering: no drinking, no smoking, no swearing, no fighting....because all that was common at the average bluegrass and country event.
You're right on most counts except that Haggard endorsed Hitlery Clinton before his death. That was sad considering his contributions to the culture of our nation.
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Old October 7th, 2017, 07:15 AM   #73
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People can use music to lure you into a lifestyle that you would normally reject. A lot of modern music is a glorification of violence, sadism, masochism, and even drug use. For that matter a lot of old rock music fits that description:

"Just got home from Illinois. Locked the front door Oh boy. Look at all the happy creatures dancing on the lawn"

Some snappy tunes can hide some horrific political and social concepts.
What the fuck is so horrific about Lookin Out My Back Door?

Is Another Brick In The Wall a treasonous song formenting rebellion now too? Is Sympathy for the Devil actually a devil-worshiping song?
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But if you try sometime, you just might find, you get what you need....

Not country, but, uh - yeah.
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What the fuck is so horrific about Lookin Out My Back Door?

Is Another Brick In The Wall a treasonous song formenting rebellion now too? Is Sympathy for the Devil actually a devil-worshiping song?
I don't know about your other songs; the one I quoted sounds like a guy on a drug trip. Great catchy tune - easy to learn, but the message is unequivocally clear.
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Or looking at it from a different angle, why do liberals hate country music?
I like American Blue Grass country music, it feels honest and heartfelt unlike some other types of Country and Western music which can seem very false.
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I don't know about your other songs; the one I quoted sounds like a guy on a drug trip. Great catchy tune - easy to learn, but the message is unequivocally clear.
So? It's still a good song.
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So? It's still a good song.
It's a catchy tune... I know the words. The point I'm trying to make is analogous to another rock song:

A pretty face can hide and evil mind...

If you're over 40 you will know what song that verse represents
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What the fuck is so horrific about Lookin Out My Back Door?

Is Another Brick In The Wall a treasonous song formenting rebellion now too? Is Sympathy for the Devil actually a devil-worshiping song?
Us/Them.

I rest my case counselor.
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I've got a 103-year old friend, the community's matriarch, who uses "balmy" as in not right in the head. I'd never heard it used that way.
Is that a typo ?

A word we often use to describe someone who’s crazy is ‘barmy’, but I’ve never come across the word ‘balmy’.
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