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Old April 21st, 2018, 04:14 PM   #11
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You, as usual, are lying through your teeth.
Almost all those things we have had under numerous conservative Republican Presidents.
Most are simply ideas voiced by individual liberals. Hell, EVEERY group has it's nut-jobs.
It was fucking Richard M. Nixon that instituted actual wage and price controls for a period of time in the 70's.
Most of your post is just bullshit, as usual.
Dismissed as such.
I didn't say DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN. YOU DUMB BUTT

I SAID LIBERALS COMMUNIST AND SOCIALIST

Where in your empty Jar Head do you read "Democrat" in the post to which you responded


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No, accurate..

What is the difference in the agenda of US Liberals, European Socialist, and Asian Communist want

1. Progrssive taxation
2. Government run Schools
3. National healthcare
4. Larger stake in the profits or ownership of Corporations
5. greater nationalization of Energy sector.
6. Progressive corporate taxes
7. Progressive capital Gains taxes
8. Minimum nationalized minimum wage
9. Maximum wages
10. Basic income.
11. End to private firearm ownership


Just as Liberal, Socialist, Communist all are Marxist and all want to limit your freedoms.

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Which one please be specific.
Socialist suck up to all that stuff......I'm a conservative democrat and it all stinks for me....



A democrat who likes any of that has a touch of socialism in them.
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Old April 21st, 2018, 05:55 PM   #13
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Socialist suck up to all that stuff......I'm a conservative democrat and it all stinks for me....



A democrat who likes any of that has a touch of socialism in them.
And my posts says what about Democrats? Nothing.. my post addresses

LIBERALS, SOCIALIST, AND COMMUNISTS..

my statements does not address DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN

What is the difference in a Liberal Democrat and a Liberal Republican..

The party to which they belong.

I would and have voted for Conservative Democrats over Liberal Republians for decades.
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I didn't say DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN. YOU DUMB BUTT

I SAID LIBERALS COMMUNIST AND SOCIALIST

Where in your empty Jar Head do you read "Democrat" in the post to which you responded
I...don't...give...a...fuck.
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Liberals Socialist Communist.. the unholy Trinity one god (the state) 3 persons of Marxism.
Why do the weirdoes not know that liberalism is everywhere the normal ideology of working capitalism, to be succeeded by fascism only when the system has entirely broken down and can only survive by means of mass murder and the destruction of democratic institutions?
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Why do the weirdoes not know that liberalism is everywhere the normal ideology of working capitalism, to be succeeded by fascism only when the system has entirely broken down and can only survive by means of mass murder and the destruction of democratic institutions?
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Many historians have suggested that Stalin was responsible for death total of around 20 million, citing much higher victim totals from executions, Gulag camps, deportations and other causes. Simon Sebag Montefiore suggested that Stalin was ultimately responsible for the deaths of between 20 and 25 million people..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number..._Joseph_Stalin
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Old April 22nd, 2018, 09:00 AM   #17
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Why do the weirdoes not know that liberalism is everywhere the normal ideology of working capitalism, to be succeeded by fascism only when the system has entirely broken down and can only survive by means of mass murder and the destruction of democratic institutions?
I wish more Americans (starting with the moderator here) would ask themselves: what kind of a democracy is it, when your choices are always limited to two?

Every other country that claims to be a representative democracy has the capacity for new parties to get on the ballot, in debates, on the public airwaves, and finance a campaign without being bankrolled by billionaires! When you just have a choice of TWO, you end up with one or two parties at most who have reasonable opportunities to win elections, and both of those parties serving corporate and entrenched state interests!

A good example I heard today about how two choices are no choice in states where one of the two dominate the system is in California, where a rush of progressive candidates are being badgered and intimidated, and offers of bribes, to try to force them off the ballot where a ConservaDem...including former Republicans are the handpicked choice of the DCCC.

As long as there are only two choices, the excuse that a Republican might win over a centrist Democrat keeps being flown up the flagpole, because the alternative: promote policies that are popular with the majority of people, is never considered a viable option by the powerbrokers who run the system!
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Most historians are partisans who regurgitate the same claims over and over again! Not that Stalin had an aversion to killing, but every death from famine has been blamed on Stalin and Mao Tse Tung in China. Certainly their ill-thought out agricultural reforms were a substantial part of the reason, but, how much of a role did the combinations of bad weather and blockades on grain shipments do to factor in to those numbers?

Also, nowadays we have former East Bloc countries having either fascist and fascist-sympathizing governments (Poland, Latvia, Lithuania, Hungary, Ukraine, Georgia, Bulgaria) attempting to absolve their fascist..usually Nazi-collaborating partisans from their culpability in mass murders...with the blame going to Stalin and the Russians etc..

And, speaking of how blockades and embargoes cause millions in unneeded civilian deaths, what is the death toll for US sanctions policies that prevent even other nations from doing business or sending aid to the targeted nation?

And, add in the death toll from US-sponsored genocidal dictators that were installed with great help from the CIA throughout Latin America, Indonesia, Africa etc.?

Take an unvarnished look at the whole picture and your own country that has morphed into the Empire that's still trying to control the world today, is the greatest mass murderer in history?
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Most historians are partisans who regurgitate the same claims over and over again! Not that Stalin had an aversion to killing, but every death from famine has been blamed on Stalin and Mao Tse Tung in China. Certainly their ill-thought out agricultural reforms were a substantial part of the reason, but, how much of a role did the combinations of bad weather and blockades on grain shipments do to factor in to those numbers?

Also, nowadays we have former East Bloc countries having either fascist and fascist-sympathizing governments (Poland, Latvia, Lithuania, Hungary, Ukraine, Georgia, Bulgaria) attempting to absolve their fascist..usually Nazi-collaborating partisans from their culpability in mass murders...with the blame going to Stalin and the Russians etc..

And, speaking of how blockades and embargoes cause millions in unneeded civilian deaths, what is the death toll for US sanctions policies that prevent even other nations from doing business or sending aid to the targeted nation?

And, add in the death toll from US-sponsored genocidal dictators that were installed with great help from the CIA throughout Latin America, Indonesia, Africa etc.?

Take an unvarnished look at the whole picture and your own country that has morphed into the Empire that's still trying to control the world today, is the greatest mass murderer in history?
In short your defending Communist totalitarian regimes by saying it was really the Wests fault for not acquiescing to them.
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You are or course too brainwashed to have heard of State Capitalism, but what exactly, anyway, does this drivel have to do with liberalism? Stalin was a typical capitalist in a crisis situation, but he couldn't have called himself either a liberal or a fascist, any more than Trump is allowed not to pretend to be a Christian, though the object of his worship is Trump aAmighty. Funny world you weirdoes must live in.

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