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Old September 12th, 2010, 05:20 AM   #1
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Biden says Bush deserves 'a lot of credit'

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Joe "big-fuckin deal" Biden thanks bush. As much as i don't like some of biden's policies and his ideas. That's pretty good statemanship right there.
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Old September 12th, 2010, 08:40 AM   #2
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Biden Says Bush Deserves "A Lot Of Credit"

Although the statute of limitations should be over on former President Bush, one can't forget the thundering, disgusting, deficit spending, corruption and money grab by the wealthy and Wall Street, all who did tremendously well on his watch, while Main Street America suffered and still hasn't recovered from. Throw in the misguided Iraq War, which "the surge" put us into a position to leave that country, and the historical jury remains out on Dubya. One should note that "the surge" is now being used in Afghanistan, with veteran, 3-4 tour combat soldiers there now, and is making a difference. President Obama is starting to remind me a lot of former President Jimmy Carter, both appear to be out of their element, with little knowledge how to govern, and Carter didn't have a 78-vote majority in the House Of Representatives, which permits the Democrats to pass any legislation they want. Mr. Bush, however, does deserve credit and praise for his actions following the 9/11 attack on America following the 9/11 attack on America, in responding with vigorous action, resulting in the fact that today, only 1% of American's polled say that terrorism is their major concern. We can give Mr. Bush that credit.....Stan
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Old September 12th, 2010, 01:11 PM   #3
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Mr. Bush, however, does deserve credit and praise for his actions following the 9/11 attack on America following the 9/11 attack on America, in responding with vigorous action, resulting in the fact that today, only 1% of American's polled say that terrorism is their major concern. We can give Mr. Bush that credit.....Stan




People overlook the fact that Bush was responsible for our defence on 9/11. The buck stopped with him.



Unlike Carter or Clinton, Bush failed to defend his own citizens in their own places of work.
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Old September 12th, 2010, 02:21 PM   #4
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. President Obama is starting to remind me a lot of former President Jimmy Carter, both appear to be out of their element, with little knowledge how to govern, and Carter didn't have a 78-vote majority in the House Of Representatives, which permits the Democrats to pass any legislation they want.


Um, no, it doesn't work that way. You may have forgotten the other half of the legislative body, a Senate that doesn't have a filibuster-proof majority, plus conservative Democrats, plus spineless Democrats.



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Mr. Bush, however, does deserve credit and praise for his actions following the 9/11 attack on America following the 9/11 attack on America, in responding with vigorous action, resulting in the fact that today, only 1% of American's polled say that terrorism is their major concern. We can give Mr. Bush that credit.....Stan


Or it could be the fact that the economy is at the forefront of most peoples' thinking right now...



...wait you're still right, Bush does deserve the credit.
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Old September 12th, 2010, 07:33 PM   #5
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Um, no, it doesn't work that way. You may have forgotten the other half of the legislative body, a Senate that doesn't have a filibuster-proof majority, plus conservative Democrats, plus spineless Democrats.



Or it could be the fact that the economy is at the forefront of most peoples' thinking right now...



...wait you're still right, Bush does deserve the credit.


Well aware of how Congress works, or doesn't work, as the Republicans refuse to cooperate on anything the Democrats attempt to do, but when you have a 78-vote majority in the House of Representatives, you shouldn't be worrying about how the "Party Of No" which thinks it represents the majority of American's but doesn't, operates.



The election wasn't a choice of Democrats or Republicans, it was a choice to end the gridlock in Washington. This is what the President should be preaching to the American people. The Republicans refuse to admit it. Mr. Obama was given a vast majority to operate with, and doesn't appear to be able to govern, influence the opposition, or his own party - the comparison to Jimmy Carter's negative moralizing is valid.



Mr. Obama is articulate and well intentioned - but the difference between the candidate and the job is striking. Clinton learned how to govern in Washington, Obama hasn't really even made step one. The mid-term elections won't include the motivated youth and the African-American voters who turned out for Mr. Obama two years ago. Less voters - more whites, gives the Republican's an advantage, unless everyone who enters a voting booth has lost their memory.



The Bush deficits are still burdening the country, and preventing our economic recovery. Defense spending, Social Security and health care take up the majority of government spending. If the Republicans take over Congress, and it will be an Obama political "fumble" if they do, we will have more of the same, double the defense budget, cutting Social Security, and elimination of health care reforms.



Osama bin Ladin was named by Oliver North as the most dangerous terrorist and criminal in the world during the Reagan administration. A Bush, Sr., Clinton and Bush, Jr. administration failed to take appropriate action, however, the nature of the 9/11 attack on America was as unexpected and off-the-wall, as the Pearl Harbor attack. Nobody in the American intelligence community thought "outside-the-box" and the result was a disaster. Bush responded appropriately with vigor, and I will give him credit for that..........Stan
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People overlook the fact that Bush was responsible for our defence on 9/11. The buck stopped with him.



Unlike Carter or Clinton, Bush failed to defend his own citizens in their own places of work.


Yes it did, but did he blame anyone else? Did he blame the cutbacks clinton made in the intelligence agencies?



It's easy to look back and say why didn't he do this or that and blame him for it, but he made the decisions and stood by them.
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Yes it did, but did he blame anyone else? Did he blame the cutbacks clinton made in the intelligence agencies?



It's easy to look back and say why didn't he do this or that and blame him for it, but he made the decisions and stood by them.




I don't remember him apologising to the loved ones of the 3,000 who were killed on 9/11.
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Clinton actually warned Bush about going after Al-Qaeda and his people really tried to convince the Bush administration to stay on top of that hunt and asked that they keep the heat on Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda. Guess what? It didn't. At all. It was spending most of it's time looking at Iraq, and the pursuit of it's energy policies and plans. And by doing so, couldn't see what was coming, when it was basically telegraphed to them by warnings and memos sent and by Richard Clarke and other ontelligence agents, and they ignored that as well. And that is the truth. A presidential daily breifing was titled: Bin Laden determined to strike in the U.S. and specifically gave the examples of planes being used.



Any excuses people make for this is putting partisan blinders on because the truth is something they don't like and don't want to admit.
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I don't remember him apologising to the loved ones of the 3,000 who were killed on 9/11.


I don't remember ever reading that Franklin Roosevelt apologised to the families of the American soldiers and sailers who were killed at Pearl Harbor, Wake Island or Corrigidor at the start of America's involvement in World War II, as big a surprise attack on America as 9/11 was? Or ever apologising to the Japanese-American population of California, which were rounded up due to war hysteria and put in labor camps for the duration of World War II?



I don't remember Jimmy Carter apologising to the families of the victims of the takeover and hostage crisis in Tehran, Iran of the American embassy employees and Marines?



I don't remember Ronald Reagan apologising to the families of the victims of the destruction of the Marine Barracks in Lebanon?



I don't remember George H.W. Bush, Senior apologising to the families and soldiers who were victims of the Gulf War syndrome and died by the thousands in VA hospitals, while the U.S. government denies this very probable explosion exposed American troops to biological weapons stored in Iraq? Don't remember him apologizsng to the families of the victims of the Lockerbie terrorist attack which brought down the Pan Am jet?



President Bush, Jr., did, on several occasions, meet with the families of U.S. servicemen killed in Iraq in the White House, in large groups, and that couldn't have been an easy hour or two for him. He accepted the responsibility, and stood up to terrorism, taking the fight to their shores, to protect ours. The 9/11 attack redefined how America operates, and we are a safer country today because of George Bush, Jr.'s actions on behalf of National Security.



That he came from a Yale-educated, embarrassing wealthy family out of Texas oil inheritance, just meant that all those wealthy corporations, bankers, lawyers and congressmen who were raping the American economy, were, in his own words "my brethren."



We are still paying a price for that in the economy today and the Republicans, who spent and stole us into massive debt for our children, refuse today to acknowledge it. With their "selective memory" they are trying to blame the Democrat's as the party of waste and spending, and blocking every attempt at bi-partisan government, and attempts to solve the economic crisis.



We couldn't afford the Republican spending and stealing spree of eight years, topped off by an economic downturn, the natural disaster's which destroyed the Gulf Coast and New Orleans, and a complete collapse of the housing, mortgage and lending institutions and Wall Street at the same time, with the Bush, Jr. administration refusing to act.



That's where we are today on the economic scale, with an inexperienced President whose every move is checked by the Party Of No, which would immediately return us to the corruption and bailouts of their greedy corporations and wealthy elite, double or triple the defense budget to maintain the military-industrial complex and ignore the American Middle Class, which is slowly sinking into the ranks of the poverty class, walking away from their homes in foreclosure and living in Buicks on the street.



On the economic matters, Mr. Bush was a disaster for this country, just like his father, George H.W. Bush, Senior was.



On the fight on terrorism however, you have to give Mr. Bush the credit for striking hard, and directly at the terrorist cells, and the elimination of the worst dictator since Hitler and Stalin in Iraq. We couldn't afford all of the problems economically, but we had to put terrorism at the head of the class after 9/11. Al Quida has killed more Muslims throughout the world than ever died at the World Trade Center or the Pentagon on 9/11, they were the target - Bush went after them...........Stan
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