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Old October 23rd, 2010, 04:37 AM   #1
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This guy describes how he got out of the NAKED BODY SCANNER @ the airport.. (Which are quite dangerous)



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(NaturalNews) I encountered my first airport naked body scanner while flying out of California today, and of course I decided to "opt out" of the scan. You do this by telling the blue-shirted TSA agents that you simply wish to opt out of the body scanner. Here's what happened after that: [more]
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Old October 23rd, 2010, 07:18 AM   #2
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Does anyone go to an NFL game where they are patted down? I see it all the time. Two hands around the waist, two hands across each arms. That's not really a good frisking. But I am used to it when I report for work at the Chargers' games.
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This guy describes how he got out of the NAKED BODY SCANNER @ the airport.. (Which are quite dangerous)



How to opt out of the TSA's naked body scanners at the airport





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Gosh, suppose Ms. Playboy is going through those things and after it is all done, she asks the TSA guard,"how did you like screening my beautiful body? Would you send the results to Mr. Heffner so he can pin it up on his wall, please?"



Of course the TSA guard can only roll his eyes.
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Gosh, suppose Ms. Playboy is going through those things and after it is all done, she asks the TSA guard,"how did you like screening my beautiful body? Would you send the results to Mr. Heffner so he can pin it up on his wall, please?"



Of course the TSA guard can only roll his eyes.
It would be better to simply "grab her crotch."
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Old October 23rd, 2010, 08:01 AM   #5
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This guy describes how he got out of the NAKED BODY SCANNER @ the airport.. (Which are quite dangerous)



How to opt out of the TSA's naked body scanners at the airport





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Very interesting. Lost me on the vaccine scare though. I have yet to see one of these machines either at San Francisco or Oakland, through which I usually travel. I will now opt out when I get the chance.



I haven't seen a pat-down at a US sporting event, but I went to an Italian Serie A soccer match in Brescia once where every single spectator entering the stadium was seriously frisked while several Carabinieri stood by armed and unsmiling.



Ahh... soccer.
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A good strategy to amuse the TSA employees is to submit to the full body scan sporting a raging hard-on.
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Old November 15th, 2010, 06:39 AM   #7
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Airport Security Encounter: Don't 'Touch My Junk,' John Tyner Tells Agent



(Nov. 15) -- A California man got thrown out of San Diego's airport when he refused a revealing full-body scan and then an alternative pat-down, telling a Transportation Security Agent, "If you touch my junk, I'll have you arrested."



John Tyner, 31, said he was told he could face a civil lawsuit and a $10,000 fine for leaving the screening area before the security check was complete, according to news reports and
his blog.



Tyner captured his dust-up with TSA officials in
cell phone recordings now going viral, highlighting the issue of privacy and the debate over the latest screening technology.



"It seems like it struck a chord," Tyner, a software engineer from Oceanside, Calif.,
told the North County Times. "I think people are tired of having their rights stripped away, especially in the face of not very improved security."



Tyner's story began Saturday morning when he went to San Diego International Airport for a flight to South Dakota for a pheasant hunting trip with his father-in-law,
according to The San Diego-Union-Tribune.



At first, he balked at submitting to a full-body scan, according to his blog and news reports. He told the newspaper he was surprised to learn the airport had the machines because the airport's website said it did not.




He opted for the metal detector and basic pat-down, but refused the latter after learning it involved a "groin check."




"I looked him straight in the eye and said, "If you touch my junk, I'll have you arrested," he wrote on his blog.




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More agents arrived, and one told Tyner he could be fined and subject to a lawsuit if he didn't complete the screening, the North County Times said.



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His cell phone video, which captured just the audio, received more 179,000 YouTube hits early today.



"The whole thing just seemed ridiculous. ... I don't intend to fly until these machines go away," he told CNN.




In a statement Sunday, the TSA said the body scans and pat-downs are intended to help make flying safe, the North County Times reported. The agency defended its requirement that people must complete the screening, saying that allowing people to leave halfway through could permit terrorists to try out the nation's security system.



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I am sure this might be someone related to the news I heard this morning on L.A.'s KNX-1070 radio before taking the commuter train to work.



A lady was being interviewed about the body scanners at airports, and talked about the amount of radiation that a body is exposed to when going through these scanners. And I think that the body probably gets the same amount as if it was going through a CAT scan, and not just a simple x-ray, which I had on Friday to see if I have a health problem.



So now, what's your feelings on these things?

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Refuse TSA backscatter x-ray and pat down;face a $10k fine

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IS THIS A FUCKING JOKE??



Totally unreal.......
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IS THIS A FUCKING JOKE??



Totally unreal.......


Your post adds to the one I posted, Dude. So it can't be a joke, pal.



I would go through the screening process, though. Just be silent and go through. I've never had a problem. I suppose when a TSA agent asks me to go through those back-scatter x-rays, I would say, "Oh great. My whole body going to be on candid camera. Maybe the guy behind the screen is a medical researcher and I can be compensated for it."



I was watching CNN Headline News this morning and some of the comments about that was, "TSA needs to get a grip on this situation." I mean, like, what are they going to do? Go back to the stone age before all the hijackings occurred, starting with the Cuban hijackings in the 1960's?



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Everybody should agree to the scan, but just don't agree to get naked.
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Pilots among those dismayed at scanners, pat-downs - SignOnSanDiego.com



Pilots among those dismayed at scanners, pat-downs





CHICAGO ó Airport security stops one airline pilot because he's carrying a butter knife. Elsewhere, crews opt for pat-down searches because they fear low-level radiation from body scanners could be harmful. And in San Diego, one traveler is told he can't fly at all when he likens an intrusive body search to sexual harassment.



Annoyance at security hassles has been on the rise among airline crews and passengers for years, but the widespread use of full-body image detectors this year and the simultaneous introduction of more intrusive pat-downs seems to have ramped up the frustration.



As passengers have simmered over being forced to choose scans by full-body image detectors or rigorous pat-downs inspections, some airline pilots are pushing back. Much of the criticism is directed at the Transportation Security Administration.



"I would say that pilots are beyond fed up," said Tom Walsh, a pilot and sometimes aviation security consultant. "The TSA is wasting valuable time and money searching the crew - who are not a threat."



Even one of the nation's most celebrated pilots, Capt. Chesley "Sully" Sullenberger, has detected the growing unease.



"The fundamental reason is that airline pilots are already the last line of defense for anyone who poses a threat to the airplane," said the soft-spoken Sullenberger, who successfully ditched his US Airways plane in the Hudson River last year after it struck birds during takeoff. "We are - and would like to be considered - trusted partners in that important security mission."




The scanners show a body's contours on a computer stationed in a private room removed from the security checkpoints. A person's face is never shown and the person's identity is supposedly not known to the screener reviewing the images. Under TSA rules, those who decline must submit to pat-downs that include checks of the inside of travelers' thighs and buttocks.



Top federal officials said Monday that the procedures are safe and necessary sacrifices to ward off terror attacks.



"It's all about security," Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said. "It's all about everybody recognizing their role."



That's not how John Tyner sees it.



The software engineer posted an Internet blog item over the weekend saying he had been ejected from the San Diego airport after being threatened with a fine and lawsuit for refusing a groin check after turning down a full-body scan. He said he told one federal TSA worker, "If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested."



"I told the person that being molested should not be a condition of getting on a flight," the 31-year-old said in a phone interview Monday.

Tyner, who was eventually told he could not fly at all because he refused both modes of search, captured the incident on his cell phone.



"This is not considered a sexual assault," a supervisor can be heard telling him.



"It would be if you were not the government," replies Tyner.

Many pilots say requiring them to go through security is ridiculous.



One 20-year airline pilot, Patrick Smith, recalled once being stopped and questioned because he had a butter knife in a bag.



"If a pilot like me is going to be up to no good, why would he need a butter knife?" he said. "I'm in control of the entire airplane!"



Walsh argued that it sends a disturbing message to passengers for them to see pilots being searched.



"They must think, `This is the guy flying the plane. If you can't trust the pilot who can you trust?'" he said.



Capt. John Prater, head of the Air Line Pilots Association, noted pilots are already subject to FBI background checks. Prater said that based on discussions with TSA officials Monday he was hopeful the agency will soon approve a "crew pass" system that would allow flight attendants and pilots to undergo less stringent screenings.



Some pilots also are concerned about possible health risks from low-level radiation emitted by the body machines.



Sullenberger, who recently retired, said pilots are exposed to more radiation because they fly at altitudes where the atmosphere doesn't fully block harmful rays.



"So, for those of us who are already exposed to many times more radiation than those who work on the ground, it is of concern to us that we are exposed even in small amounts to additional, what we consider unnecessary radiation exposure," he said.



Sullenberger said he hasn't heard of studies addressing those potential health risks, but he said, "Absent the data, I think we need to err on the side of caution."



Not all passengers share the level of ire of Tyner, whose individual protest quickly became a web sensation over the weekend.



Waiting to board a flight at Los Angeles International Airport on Monday, Mark Spritzler said he, for one, accepted that scanners were a necessary inconvenience.



"It makes me feel safer flying," Spritzler, of Long Beach, said. "I don't think they intrude on my privacy, the images are seen behind closed doors and unfortunately this is what has to be done to make things more secure."
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If a passenger who goes through these body scanners contracts cancer because of the radiation emitted through these things, all they have to do is call a lawyer and take the TSA to court with a civil lawsuit.



Maybe that's what John Tyner should do if he ever went through those scanners.
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If a passenger who goes through these body scanners contracts cancer because of the radiation emitted through these things, all they have to do is call a lawyer and take the TSA to court with a civil lawsuit.



Maybe that's what John Tyner should do if he ever went through those scanners.
A little bit of radiation is good for you. It cleans out the worms in your body.
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A little bit of radiation is good for you. It cleans out the worms in your body.


Take off your shoes, no liquids on planes, be subjected to a naked body scan or a crotch grab...........



the terrorists have succeeded in restricting our freedoms and humiliating travellers as we continue to chase yesterday's threats




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Uh, ok.
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Take off your shoes, no liquids on planes, be subjected to a naked body scan or a crotch grab...........



the terrorists have succeeded in restricting our freedoms and humiliating travellers as we continue to chase yesterday's threats






Oh, wonderful. A nun. Was it Dr. Sculler of the Crystal Cathedral who showed up once in full vestments at an airport? He wore his vestments inside the plane because he could not hang it up since his vestments needed to hung in full, not bent.



Imagine if he were to do that today, he'd be as fully dressed as the nun above, and he would go through what the nun is being subjected to.
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There is an easy solution to this problem.



FLY NAKED!

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FLY NAKED!





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Take off your shoes, no liquids on planes, be subjected to a naked body scan or a crotch grab...........



the terrorists have succeeded in restricting our freedoms and humiliating travellers as we continue to chase yesterday's threats






Yep. And this:



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Waiting to board a flight at Los Angeles International Airport on Monday, Mark Spritzler said he, for one, accepted that scanners were a necessary inconvenience.



"It makes me feel safer flying," Spritzler, of Long Beach, said. "I don't think they intrude on my privacy, the images are seen behind closed doors and unfortunately this is what has to be done to make things more secure."


Baaaaah. That's what we want to be, a nice, safe nation of sheeple.



And, I noted that the heads of people aren't scanned. Great. "Plane brought down by mouth bomb."



How many planes have been brought down by nuns? Or three-year-old girls? How many have been brought down by men of Middle Eastern descent?



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THE INDIGNITY OF SECURITY



In the 9 years since 9-11 there have been exactly 0 incidents of hijackings or terror attacks by individuals boarding domestic aircraft in this country (not an international flight originating from another country). When coupled with the facts that there are over 30,000 commercial departures per day with an average passenger load per flight easily exceeding 25, then this most recent mathematical history teaches us:



That the odds of being subject to a terrorist attack on a domestic (US) commercial airliner today are greater than 22 BILLION, 173 MILLION, 750 THOUSAND to 1 (22,173,750,000)! Woefully lower than getting hit by lightening, attacked by a shark and a refund from the IRS; all at the same time!



And Iím the one full of hot air for trying to bring reason to all this security-hyped nonsense? Iím the paranoid one for trying to raise your awareness to the pragmatic inevitability that short of full-blown x-rays and dogs up your butt you canít stop every attack? No, unfortunately my mathematically-challenged and ĎThreat-Levelí terrified brethren, Iím just one of the few (with a set) standing up. Not standing up because Iím embarrassed by my body mind you. Not standing up because Iím in a hurry either, because if I were I certainly wouldnít be wasting my time standing in the TSA ĎRope & Gropeí line. No, Iím merely standing up for what makes sense.





And electronic strip-searches and indiscriminate fondling by our new ĎBrown-Shirtsí (Hitler Youth) brings nothing advantageous to the security issue and does everything to worsen it. Why? Because the borders of this country are so wide-open that no terrorist need bother with the TSA and all its anal-ness? Any half-wit al Qaeda that can manage to walk across the border (like ever one else) with a Stinger or RPG can just waltz up to any major airport, take aim and bring down you narrow-minded exhibitionists any day of the week! Yet here you are 9 years after September 11th none the wiser, or richer for that matter; continually reaching into your dwindling bag of liberties (and Dignity) and dolling out more and more for imagined security.





And obviously most of you donít realize just how poorly our airline industry is doing these days; let alone how things really work. Do you think the majorís got together and demanded that the Air Marshalls move from First Class to Coach for nothing? I mean, what with a whopping 1000 or so total Marshalls extrapolated over the entire air-carrier network, what does a few (very few) First Class seats translate into anyway? And yes, getting hit in the bottom line does tend to get the big-boys (i.e. Delta, American, etc.) to do for us what this ever-bloating government that you all donít seem to mind bending over for, would never do.



And no, I donít think psychiatry is appropriate here. Perhaps brain surgery to remove your heads out of your collective asses would be more appropriate; because it appears that most of you havenít figured out that all this FBS is just for show. And that government just wants more ways to flagellate you all; which apparently youíre not getting enough of yet.



So my advice for all you flaccid ones out there who take issue with people for standing up against such wasteful invasions of privacy is, buy plenty of KY Jelly. Because thanks to you holes of little resistance, this unrestrained governmentís patoodling is just going to get harder, longer and more frequent!


Another one bites the dust, Amendment IV:



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The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.


And from Ben Franklin:



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Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.


Baaaaaah.
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Everybody should agree to the scan...
Sorry but I WOULD NOT EVER AGREE TO BE SUBJECT TO SUCH DANGEROUS THINGS!!!!



I am not a terrorist and i do not want to be treated like one!
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