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Old January 19th, 2017, 03:40 PM   #41
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My public grade school was a six room school house out in the country surrounded by corn, bean and wheat fields. Instruction was by rote and flash cards were used for basic math. Corporal punishment was administered when necessary. Heat was supplied by a coal fired furnace. Old and torn American flags were burned outside by the Boy Scouts. We didn't have a library but the bookmobile stopped by every two weeks. My class had 23 students and we were all white. Jackie Trent was black and he was in our class for two years and never saw one incident of racism. The entire class including the teacher said the Lord's Prayer and Pledge of Allegiance before class started. Pictures of George Washington and Abraham Lincoln were prominently displayed in every classroom as well as the American Flag. Six students in my class became multi-millionaires when adults which is better than a 25% millionaire rate. Three students in my class became decorated Vietnam Vets. This rural picture does not bode well for the Department of Education.
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Old January 19th, 2017, 05:14 PM   #42
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Putting partisanship aside....

You've been in public education. What good did the Dept. of Education ever do for you, or your students?

Great question...and where to begin? Things have certainly changed. I guess I would start with the credentials I was required to have just to get started--strong teacher prep--the pedagogy classes, psychology/child development, student teaching, writing curriculum, languages, literature, etc. The Dept of Ed has requirements that must be met in order to BE a teacher--to receive a certification and be highly qualified. Teachers are back-ground checked and finger printed. For individuals who want to go beyond the basic requirements of state licensure, there is the option of achieving National Board for Professional Teaching Standards (NBPTS) certification. This is just one thing that the Dept of Ed did for ME and students--at the same time.
What has the dept done for my students?
*Preschool and all day Kindergarten and Headstart programs
*Special Education and the the inception of the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA)
*Disability Discrimination and Accommodations
*Title IX
*No Child Left Behind and Common Core--State Standards/Higher Standards
* Grants and financial aid
* Collection and dispersment of national educational data--how to improve math and reading--census data
* Required inclusion and aid for cognitively disabled, impaired
* Guidelines on religion and public schools
* Privacy Information Act


Is that enough? Because there's much more. When I first started teaching (small town Wisconsin), I was stunned to find the Down Syndrome children housed in a remote portable trailer on the edge of the district---all of them. There was one 'teacher' and one aid to about 10 kiddos, from ages 6-16. So basically they were hidden away--no curriculum--no requirements--no special area subjects like art, music, P.E. It was the Dept of Ed that changed that with the word "inclusion" and certified special ed teachers.
Today, Kinder kids can count to 20, know their alphabet, colors, shapes--and are reading...because of pre-school and Head Start programs.
Disabled students are mainstreamed--autistic, hearing/sight impaired, bi-polar, LD, ADHD, etc......because of the Dept of Education.
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T-minus 2.5 hours until Trump Day.
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Old January 20th, 2017, 03:10 AM   #44
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A phone call to the school revealed that they don't have a gun, they have a fence and bear spray.
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Old January 20th, 2017, 03:29 AM   #45
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Old January 20th, 2017, 06:33 AM   #46
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Great question...and where to begin? Things have certainly changed. I guess I would start with the credentials I was required to have just to get started--strong teacher prep--the pedagogy classes, psychology/child development, student teaching, writing curriculum, languages, literature, etc. The Dept of Ed has requirements that must be met in order to BE a teacher--to receive a certification and be highly qualified. Teachers are back-ground checked and finger printed. For individuals who want to go beyond the basic requirements of state licensure, there is the option of achieving National Board for Professional Teaching Standards (NBPTS) certification. This is just one thing that the Dept of Ed did for ME and students--at the same time.
What has the dept done for my students?
*Preschool and all day Kindergarten and Headstart programs
*Special Education and the the inception of the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA)
*Disability Discrimination and Accommodations
*Title IX
*No Child Left Behind and Common Core--State Standards/Higher Standards
* Grants and financial aid
* Collection and dispersment of national educational data--how to improve math and reading--census data
* Required inclusion and aid for cognitively disabled, impaired
* Guidelines on religion and public schools
* Privacy Information Act


Is that enough? Because there's much more. When I first started teaching (small town Wisconsin), I was stunned to find the Down Syndrome children housed in a remote portable trailer on the edge of the district---all of them. There was one 'teacher' and one aid to about 10 kiddos, from ages 6-16. So basically they were hidden away--no curriculum--no requirements--no special area subjects like art, music, P.E. It was the Dept of Ed that changed that with the word "inclusion" and certified special ed teachers.
Today, Kinder kids can count to 20, know their alphabet, colors, shapes--and are reading...because of pre-school and Head Start programs.
Disabled students are mainstreamed--autistic, hearing/sight impaired, bi-polar, LD, ADHD, etc......because of the Dept of Education.
You just listed the majority of reasons why the US public education has steadily dropped compared to the rest of the world and why SAT and ACT scored have steadily dropped over the past forty plus years.
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Old January 20th, 2017, 06:46 AM   #47
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That clip couldn't be more out of context even if you wanted it to be.

Here's one that is much more fitting.
https://youtu.be/FN7r0Rr1Qyc
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That clip couldn't be more out of context even if you wanted it to be.

Here's one that is much more fitting.
https://youtu.be/FN7r0Rr1Qyc
Today is about freedom from the oppression of progressive socialists, cry me some more liberal tears, my cup runneth over!
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Today is about freedom from the oppression of progressive socialists, cry me some more liberal tears, my cup runneth over!
Today is no different than any other day for you .
Your mental illness cannot be cured by a change of government.
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funny thing is, the name" American PUBLIC education" implies federal not state.
it's like the difference between a state park and a national park.
How so?
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