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Old February 2nd, 2017, 10:59 AM   #11
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As a Christian man, I am pro Bible, therefore pro Israel! As a sidebar why would you like the Iran deal it seems to be not very good for America, and not being enforced. If this is something you would wish to discuss on another thread I yield to your moderatorship.

So you are anti Israel being a country?
As a pro-Bible man you know that the Israel of today is not the Israel of the Old Testament. The 1948 Statehood of Israel did not fulfill biblical prophecy regarding the restoration of Israel.

Zionists are imposters. They continuously work against their own survival. We owe the Zionists exactly nothing. Far too often, the US has put the interests of the Zionists ahead of our own interests.

Iran poses no eminent threat to the US. To Saudi Arabia, to the nation state of Israel, Iran poses a threat. But we're under a new regime. Under Trump, old agreements are disposable. Think: Ukraine. Now think: Israel. Let the Zionists take care of their own problems.
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This thread reminds me again that the best advantage I've had by leaving the United States is getting out of the fishbowl where nothing exists outside of America's borders except for terrorists and wars America is directly involved in...usually instigated. Regardless, the self-absorption and lack of interest in what goes on in the rest of the world, has blinded Americans from left to right at how the nation of Australia has dealt with its refugee crises...it's been happening there a lot longer than in Europe or America.

Well, it all boils down to the formerly liberal democratic, western oriented white nation* of Australia, is creating offshore island prison colonies, where men, women and children are interned indefinitely, without access to legal representation or even under scrutiny of journalists, as these detention camps are off limits to all media, foreign and domestic, and every journalist who has entered under false pretenses (such as volunteer) or smuggled out pictures and video, is subject to prosecution by the Australian Government!

The largest, and most notable offender, is the technically independent island nation of Nauru, which in a very short matter of a view decades, demonstrated the folly of leaving age-old ways of farming and gathering to take up capitalist extraction-based living back in the 70's. Nauru had large...seemingly limitless at that time, deposits of potash that could be easily mined and shipped off to foreign lands for profit.

So, Nauru's native population lived high on the hog, like lottery winners for a few years until their one and only mined resource was gone. And...as they should have expected, the foreign mining interests kept the locals in the dark about the longterm viability of what became their one and only source of income. When the potash was gone, so were the mining companies, and they abandoned the island and the natives to live or die on an empty shell of an island!

This backstory is necessary to have an appreciation of the despicable and contemptible fraud perpetrated by Australia, when they offered the remaining Nauruans a new industry: housing Australia's boat people.

This recent story from the Guardian (foreign press again!) provides a brief rundown of Australia's failure to live up to its vaunted ideals when faced with human catastrophes nearby. And once again, it also shows the failures of modern capitalist systems in a hurry to take and use up everything nature provides as fast as possible! Australia has been basing its security on being part of the US military umbrella, joining in as a small player in Iraq and Afghanistan and opening Australian ports for US Naval operations. The Australian economy turns more and more to mining and resource extraction as its resources dwindle away. And since the Australian Continent has large coal reserves they want to keep shipping to China. That's at least part of the reason Australia has been electing US-allied, climate change denying conservative governments in recent times.

A short history of Nauru, Australia’s dumping ground for refugees

Its phosphate reserves once made a speck in the Pacific one of the richest countries on Earth. Today Nauru is broke, barren and beholden to its neighbour

by Ben Doherty
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...d-for-refugees

So, longer story short, whether the Australian Prime Minister listens to Donald Trump or hangs up on him, it shouldn't matter a crap considering what's in his resume!


*Australia is another settler-colonial nation that largely cleansed to continent of the indigenous aborigines to establish a white British colony that is part of today's US commercial empire
What happens within Australia's borders is their affair. When those problems directly affect us, then we're in a different ballpark. The US should not be encumbered by a senseless, idiotic agreement made by a former president. The illegal alien issue is Australia's problem. Let it remain in Australia. We've got more than enough problems with ours.
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Some of the alleged conversation is fake news.

And I note that the Progs cannot bring themselves, even those who claim to be for America's interests first, that their hero Øbama cobbled together a terrible deal with Australia. Trump will set that right one hopes.


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