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Old February 2nd, 2017, 06:15 AM   #1
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How do you like him now?? Ask Australia.

It should have been one of the most congenial calls for the new commander in chief — a conversation with the leader of Australia, one of America’s staunchest allies, at the end of a triumphant week.

Instead, President Trump blasted Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull over a refu*gee agreement and boasted about the magnitude of his electoral college win, according to senior U.S. officials briefed on the Saturday exchange. Then, 25 minutes into what was expected to be an hour-long call, Trump abruptly ended it.

At one point, Trump informed Turnbull that he had spoken with four other world leaders that day — including Russian President Vladi*mir Putin — and that “this was the worst call by far.”

Trump’s behavior suggests that he is capable of subjecting world leaders, including close allies, to a version of the vitriol he frequently employs against political adversaries and news organizations in speeches and on Twitter.

Trump returned to the topic late Wednesday night, writing in a message on Twitter: “Do you believe it? The Obama Administration agreed to take thousands of illegal immigrants from Australia. Why? I will study this dumb deal!”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...nl_draw&wpmm=1
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The man cannot deal with reality.

Australia, unlike Israel, is a true ally. So, let's piss off Australia. Sure.
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Old February 2nd, 2017, 08:43 AM   #3
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It should have been one of the most congenial calls for the new commander in chief — a conversation with the leader of Australia, one of America’s staunchest allies, at the end of a triumphant week.

Instead, President Trump blasted Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull over a refu*gee agreement and boasted about the magnitude of his electoral college win, according to senior U.S. officials briefed on the Saturday exchange. Then, 25 minutes into what was expected to be an hour-long call, Trump abruptly ended it.

At one point, Trump informed Turnbull that he had spoken with four other world leaders that day — including Russian President Vladi*mir Putin — and that “this was the worst call by far.”

Trump’s behavior suggests that he is capable of subjecting world leaders, including close allies, to a version of the vitriol he frequently employs against political adversaries and news organizations in speeches and on Twitter.

Trump returned to the topic late Wednesday night, writing in a message on Twitter: “Do you believe it? The Obama Administration agreed to take thousands of illegal immigrants from Australia. Why? I will study this dumb deal!”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...nl_draw&wpmm=1

Trump reportedly accuses Australian PM of seeking to export next ?Boston bombers? | Fox News

This was all I needed to read honestly.

The Washington Post, citing unidentified senior U.S. officials, reported that Trump cut their first call short with Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull after the conversation turn to a deal that would allow mostly Muslim refugees rejected by Australia to be resettled in the US.

Why would we make such a stupid deal?
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The man cannot deal with reality.

Australia, unlike Israel, is a true ally. So, let's piss off Australia. Sure.

Are you Anti Semitic?
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The man cannot deal with reality.

Australia, unlike Israel, is a true ally. So, let's piss off Australia. Sure.
Or Russia?
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Are you Anti Semitic?
Anti-Zionist. I put the US' interests first.

You?
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IMO, it's about time stood up for America and told all of the other countries that we are not going to abide by Obimbo's stupid agreements. We're trying to get rid of illegals, not bring more in. If Australia has an illegal alien problem, let Australia take care of it. Their problem is not our problem!
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Anti-Zionist. I put the US' interests first.

You?
As a Christian man, I am pro Bible, therefore pro Israel! As a sidebar why would you like the Iran deal it seems to be not very good for America, and not being enforced. If this is something you would wish to discuss on another thread I yield to your moderatorship.

So you are anti Israel being a country?

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IMO, it's about time stood up for America and told all of the other countries that we are not going to abide by Obimbo's stupid agreements. We're trying to get rid of illegals, not bring more in. If Australia has an illegal alien problem, let Australia take care of it. Their problem is not our problem!
I would certainly agree with that.
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Australia's dirty secret prison colonies

This thread reminds me again that the best advantage I've had by leaving the United States is getting out of the fishbowl where nothing exists outside of America's borders except for terrorists and wars America is directly involved in...usually instigated. Regardless, the self-absorption and lack of interest in what goes on in the rest of the world, has blinded Americans from left to right at how the nation of Australia has dealt with its refugee crises...it's been happening there a lot longer than in Europe or America.

Well, it all boils down to the formerly liberal democratic, western oriented white nation* of Australia, is creating offshore island prison colonies, where men, women and children are interned indefinitely, without access to legal representation or even under scrutiny of journalists, as these detention camps are off limits to all media, foreign and domestic, and every journalist who has entered under false pretenses (such as volunteer) or smuggled out pictures and video, is subject to prosecution by the Australian Government!

The largest, and most notable offender, is the technically independent island nation of Nauru, which in a very short matter of a view decades, demonstrated the folly of leaving age-old ways of farming and gathering to take up capitalist extraction-based living back in the 70's. Nauru had large...seemingly limitless at that time, deposits of potash that could be easily mined and shipped off to foreign lands for profit.

So, Nauru's native population lived high on the hog, like lottery winners for a few years until their one and only mined resource was gone. And...as they should have expected, the foreign mining interests kept the locals in the dark about the longterm viability of what became their one and only source of income. When the potash was gone, so were the mining companies, and they abandoned the island and the natives to live or die on an empty shell of an island!

This backstory is necessary to have an appreciation of the despicable and contemptible fraud perpetrated by Australia, when they offered the remaining Nauruans a new industry: housing Australia's boat people.

This recent story from the Guardian (foreign press again!) provides a brief rundown of Australia's failure to live up to its vaunted ideals when faced with human catastrophes nearby. And once again, it also shows the failures of modern capitalist systems in a hurry to take and use up everything nature provides as fast as possible! Australia has been basing its security on being part of the US military umbrella, joining in as a small player in Iraq and Afghanistan and opening Australian ports for US Naval operations. The Australian economy turns more and more to mining and resource extraction as its resources dwindle away. And since the Australian Continent has large coal reserves they want to keep shipping to China. That's at least part of the reason Australia has been electing US-allied, climate change denying conservative governments in recent times.

A short history of Nauru, Australia’s dumping ground for refugees

Its phosphate reserves once made a speck in the Pacific one of the richest countries on Earth. Today Nauru is broke, barren and beholden to its neighbour

by Ben Doherty
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...d-for-refugees

So, longer story short, whether the Australian Prime Minister listens to Donald Trump or hangs up on him, it shouldn't matter a crap considering what's in his resume!


*Australia is another settler-colonial nation that largely cleansed to continent of the indigenous aborigines to establish a white British colony that is part of today's US commercial empire
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