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Old February 9th, 2017, 01:37 PM   #11
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The deductible alone makes the ACA worthless. In affect, your insuring yourself.
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Old February 9th, 2017, 03:19 PM   #12
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honestly I think this "debate" was a waste of time. It probably just led to more polarization. Basically you have a couple could have beens, bantering about for no reason. I get it that there was some zingers and points made, but to what end?
I disagree.

There are a number of people (take goober) who are under the disillusion that Obamacare is a success and that single payer would be even better. I thought I was good to give the socialists a chance to demonstrate that.

They (comrade sanders) failed miserably.
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I disagree.

There are a number of people (take goober) who are under the disillusion that Obamacare is a success and that single payer would be even better. I thought I was good to give the socialists a chance to demonstrate that.

They (comrade sanders) failed miserably.
Ok fine you might have a point. Here is your reward

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Old February 10th, 2017, 10:03 AM   #14
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Fifty-two percent of Obamacare enrollees can afford $100 per month for premiums. Sixteen percent can afford $200 per month for premiums. Eleven percent can afford $300 for premiums. Twenty percent can afford more than $300 for premiums.

The average out of pocket expense to use Obamacare is $6,000.

Lower income users are forced onto Medicaid even though they had regular insurance. All Medicaid expenses are recouped by the state after death.

It is first grade level math to determine that most Obamacare users cannot afford to use it.
When I was younger I had HOSPITALIZATION insurance. It did NOT cover routine office visits and such. It wasn't horribly expensive but it wasn't cheap either.

A friend of mine, who ironically hated Obama, signed up for Obamacare the first day. She's TICKLED to have the coverage. Her husband is self employed. They haven't had insurance for decades. They are used to paying for routine doctor stuff. Her worry for the last few years, is that they are getting older, and he hasn't been taking care of himself. She looks great for her age. He's over weight, high blood pressure, probably diabetic. So her biggest fear is that he'll have a heart attack or a stroke. If he has a widow maker and is pronounced dead at the scene, not so bad. But if he spends a few days in the hospital it could easily bankrupt them.

50% of all bankruptcies filed in the past few years are the result of a major illness or injury.

If you don't have insurance you've been footing the doctor bill out of pocket anyway. At least with the ACA you won't have to worry if you or child has a major illness.
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