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Old October 23rd, 2017, 09:01 AM   #21
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Back to the topic. Our congress didn't seem to KNOW we had 1000 troops in Niger.
WHY??

Key senators say they didn't know the US had troops in Niger - CNNPolitics
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Back to the topic. Our congress didn't seem to KNOW we had 1000 troops in Niger.
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Key senators say they didn't know the US had troops in Niger - CNNPolitics
They are also operating under the same congressional approval that has been in effect since 2001. That congressional approval has been interpreted far beyond anything originally envisioned.
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Old October 23rd, 2017, 09:33 AM   #23
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Hatchet piece. Blames Obama for the REPUBLICANS pushing sequestration thru. Even states that military levels were below what Obama wanted. Also our military doesn't consider itself "prepared" if they aren't ready to fight TWO MAJOR WARS at the same time. We are more than capable of prosecuting a major conflict.
In today's society wouldn't that kind of preparedness be intelligent?
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Key senators say they didn't know the US had troops in Niger - CNNPolitics
Good question been there 5 years.
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In today's society wouldn't that kind of preparedness be intelligent?
Preparedness is always a good thing. But at WHAT COST ?? How prepared do we really need to be ?? The article's headline claims that our military is "barely capable of defending the country". The fact is, it's MORE than capable of defending the country. It may not be capable of fighting a world war on multiple fronts at the moment, but neither was it capable of such at the start of WW2. It didn't take long for us to gear up and get the job done. The generals and the MIC are always going to try and scare us into spending more on the military.

If anything has "decimated" the military it's the constant state of war we've been in since the great shrub decided to invade Iraq.
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Preparedness is always a good thing. But at WHAT COST ?? How prepared do we really need to be ?? The article's headline claims that our military is "barely capable of defending the country". The fact is, it's MORE than capable of defending the country. It may not be capable of fighting a world war on multiple fronts at the moment, but neither was it capable of such at the start of WW2. It didn't take long for us to gear up and get the job done. The generals and the MIC are always going to try and scare us into spending more on the military.

If anything has "decimated" the military it's the constant state of war we've been in since the great shrub decided to invade Iraq.
Well we are still in Afghanistan, Obama said we would be out by the time he left.
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Well we are still in Afghanistan, Obama said we would be out by the time he left.

And Bush said there were WMD in Iraq, that Iraq was involved in the 9/11 plot, that it would be a limited war, lasting only a few months, costing about $10 Billion dollars, which would be repaid with Iraqi oil revenues.

Two TRILLION dollars later what do we have to show for 14 years of fucking around over there ??
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its likely the white house knew nothing of this until these deaths. jesus, do you think the president is personally informed of the whereabouts and situation of every single individual deployed troop? this is a story about american imperialism, fighting dirty little wars in secret, about the worlds largest military engaged with guerrilla militia in the worlds poorest countries. it might be an important story, but remember its happened continuously under all of the last 5 presidents. its nothing to do with trump personally.
I would bet my last dollar Trump couldn't find Niger on a map, much less had any direct knowledge of our troops there.

He made a statement some months ago that he was taking a HANDS OFF approach to the military. That he was going to give them more latitude and autonomy to act.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...tary-free-rein

Even tho the Dumpster can't be held personally liable, this was still a serious mission failure. A commander somewhere totally failed to protect his troops. Why have air cover if they can't actually provide cover ?? Why contract out critical services ?? IF we're going to put boots on the ground, then we must be fully prepared to back them up. There must a a military rescue chopper in the area. There must be armed air support, at least an armed drone.

Ambushes and attacks are inevitable. However we MUST have the tools and equipment to deal with such things when they occur. What I see here is first a failure of intel, and second a failure of proper back up. Could some of these men been saved if a drone had been able to bring some decent fire power ? Could even a lightly armed chopper have provided both air support and rescue ?? How did Sgt Johnson get "separated" from his squad and his body found more than a mile away even tho his homing beacon was active ??

Leaving something SO critical to foreign military who have their own agendas and contractors just seems stupid to me.
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