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Old October 23rd, 2017, 05:58 PM   #11
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do you?

you misogynistic asshole. most men are better people than you..

the legal system doesnt. the state doesnt. the woman cannot be charged with the 'crime' of adultery. in the 21st century, only islam is that sick.
Don't be stupid. The culture does. Same way the culture in the Middle East does.
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Old October 23rd, 2017, 06:09 PM   #12
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Don't be stupid. The culture does. Same way the culture in the Middle East does.
bullshit. the culture in the west does NOT blame a woman for being raped. some individuals do, you could even say a lot of individuals do. you are making a pretty good case that you are one of them. but its not everyone, its not "the culture".

more significantly, the law doesnt. the state doesnt. committing rape is a crime that is actively prosecuted. being raped isnt. in most islamic societies its the opposite.

and you seem to be defending that.

you misogynistic asshole.
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Old October 23rd, 2017, 06:14 PM   #13
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bullshit. the culture in the west does NOT blame a woman for being raped. some individuals do, you could even say a lot of individuals do. you are making a pretty good case that you are one of them. but its not everyone, its not "the culture".

more significantly, the law doesnt. the state doesnt. committing rape is a crime that is actively prosecuted. being raped isnt. in most islamic societies its the opposite.

and you seem to be defending that.

you misogynistic asshole.
Strawmanning ppl is disrespectful and shows a lack of critical thinking skills. Address the point that I made and stop accusing me of shit that I never even implied.
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Old October 23rd, 2017, 06:31 PM   #14
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Well when a white guy allegedly fires thousands of rounds into a crowd the story keeps changing so many times that even the legacy media, whos job it is to lull the masses, cannot even keep their story straight. We still have no idea what went on there and since the American public can only handel one subject at a time they are now concerned whether or not trump stuttered the name of a fallen soldier when he called to offer condolences to his widow.

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Old October 23rd, 2017, 06:56 PM   #15
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bullshit. the culture in the west does NOT blame a woman for being raped. some individuals do, you could even say a lot of individuals do. you are making a pretty good case that you are one of them. but its not everyone, its not "the culture".

more significantly, the law doesnt. the state doesnt. committing rape is a crime that is actively prosecuted. being raped isnt. in most islamic societies its the opposite.

and you seem to be defending that.

you misogynistic asshole.
Actually here in the states YES THEY BLAME WOMEN FOR BEING RAPED. The ENTIRE system effectively rapes them all over again.

The Majority of men, and sadly far too women, have little trouble slut shaming a rape victim. It's in the questions they ask.

What were you wearing ?
Was your skirt too short ?
Was your top too low ?
What kind of shoes were you wearing ?
Did you have something to drink ? If so how much ?
How many lovers have you had ?
Have you ever experimented sexually ? If so what did you do ?
Did you lead him on ?
Could you have unintentionally signaled interest in him ?
What time was it ?
Where were you ?
Where had you been earlier ?
At what point did you tell him no ?
Did you actually tell him no ?
Could he have thought you meant yes, even though you were saying no ?

ALL of western society has a built in negative bias against women's sexuality. Way back in the dark ages a couple priests (in my opinion a couple of women hating homosexuals) wrote a book in which they claimed men were NOT to be held accountable for their sexual indiscretions. Hubby stopped off at the whore house or the widow woman's down the road for a little nookie on the side, NOT his fault !! Boy next door rapes your daughter ? NOT his fault !! Any man, anywhere, having sex with a woman is NOT to be held accountable for his actions. Wives were to NEVER refuse their husbands. Her body was literally HIS property.

Their theory was, since woman can't control their periods, they can't control their sexuality. SO, as a result, there is all this UNCONTROLLED sexuality just floating around in the air, and ANY man is subject to being over powered by it and having little control in his actions. A man's ONLY fault, was NOT being Godly enough !!!! His ONLY defense against the urges created by all this sexuality floating around, was lots of prayer and becoming closer to God !!!

This mind set is deeply embedded in the western psyche. Freud codified it in his theory of the Madonna Whore complex, but he largely ignores the religious roots of it all.

When asked who are the two most famous women in the bible ? 99% will say the two Marys, one the virgin mother of Jesus, the other a whore. This is how many men, and more than a few women, see women based on their sexuality.

Good girls get the husband, the diamond ring, the house in the burbs, the 2.5 kids, the dog and the mini van and most of all, respectability. Bad girls get, well, to be bad girls. Used and abused for fun and games and then ignored and forgotten.

This IS the reality of western society.
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Old October 23rd, 2017, 07:27 PM   #16
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It's amusing how some people see a study documenting a bias against Muslims in terrorism reporting ...
... and they double down on that bias by pushing it more.

Meanwhile, let's talk about other terrorist threats in this country...
Despite the nationís intense national focus on Islamic terrorism since 9/11, homegrown, right wing extremists have also killed dozens of Americans. The groups include white supremacist and neo-Nazi groups and anti-federalists militias. Since 2001, the number of violent attacks on U.S. soil inspired by far-right ideology has spiked to an average of more than 300 a year, according to a study by the Combating Terrorism Center at West Point.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/u-...ght-every-year
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Old October 23rd, 2017, 07:27 PM   #17
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Actually here in the states YES THEY BLAME WOMEN FOR BEING RAPED. The ENTIRE system effectively rapes them all over again.

The Majority of men, and sadly far too women, have little trouble slut shaming a rape victim. It's in the questions they ask.

What were you wearing ?
Was your skirt too short ?
Was your top too low ?
What kind of shoes were you wearing ?
Did you have something to drink ? If so how much ?
How many lovers have you had ?
Have you ever experimented sexually ? If so what did you do ?
Did you lead him on ?
Could you have unintentionally signaled interest in him ?
What time was it ?
Where were you ?
Where had you been earlier ?
At what point did you tell him no ?
Did you actually tell him no ?
Could he have thought you meant yes, even though you were saying no ?

ALL of western society has a built in negative bias against women's sexuality. Way back in the dark ages a couple priests (in my opinion a couple of women hating homosexuals) wrote a book in which they claimed men were NOT to be held accountable for their sexual indiscretions. Hubby stopped off at the whore house or the widow woman's down the road for a little nookie on the side, NOT his fault !! Boy next door rapes your daughter ? NOT his fault !! Any man, anywhere, having sex with a woman is NOT to be held accountable for his actions. Wives were to NEVER refuse their husbands. Her body was literally HIS property.

Their theory was, since woman can't control their periods, they can't control their sexuality. SO, as a result, there is all this UNCONTROLLED sexuality just floating around in the air, and ANY man is subject to being over powered by it and having little control in his actions. A man's ONLY fault, was NOT being Godly enough !!!! His ONLY defense against the urges created by all this sexuality floating around, was lots of prayer and becoming closer to God !!!

This mind set is deeply embedded in the western psyche. Freud codified it in his theory of the Madonna Whore complex, but he largely ignores the religious roots of it all.

When asked who are the two most famous women in the bible ? 99% will say the two Marys, one the virgin mother of Jesus, the other a whore. This is how many men, and more than a few women, see women based on their sexuality.

Good girls get the husband, the diamond ring, the house in the burbs, the 2.5 kids, the dog and the mini van and most of all, respectability. Bad girls get, well, to be bad girls. Used and abused for fun and games and then ignored and forgotten.

This IS the reality of western society.
Good girls get to go to heaven, Bad girls get to go everywhere!!!
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Old October 23rd, 2017, 08:03 PM   #18
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Pretty sure we blame women for being raped here too
Not the same thing - not even close, and you know it.

Not only is there no such thing as marital rape of a female spouse under Islamic Law, rape can only be proven if the rapist confesses or by the testimonies of no less than FOUR MALE witnesses, even with the witnesses, she would have to show proof of endless resistance. Otherwise, it is seen as a CONFESSION by the rape victim of having sex outside of wedlock. Women are often stoned to death after reporting a rape and not having the criteria to prove innocence.
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Old October 23rd, 2017, 08:21 PM   #19
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Not the same thing - not even close, and you know it.

Not only is there no such thing as marital rape of a female spouse under Islamic Law, rape can only be proven if the rapist confesses or by the testimonies of no less than FOUR MALE witnesses, even with the witnesses, she would have to show proof of endless resistance. Otherwise, it is seen as a CONFESSION by the rape victim as having sex outside of wedlock. Women are often stoned to death after reporting a rape and not having the criteria to prove innocence.
Yep, good thing we don't have a damned theocracy in this country.
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Old October 23rd, 2017, 09:10 PM   #20
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Actually here in the states YES THEY BLAME WOMEN FOR BEING RAPED. The ENTIRE system effectively rapes them all over again.

The Majority of men, and sadly far too women, have little trouble slut shaming a rape victim. It's in the questions they ask.

What were you wearing ?
Was your skirt too short ?
Was your top too low ?
What kind of shoes were you wearing ?
Did you have something to drink ? If so how much ?
How many lovers have you had ?
Have you ever experimented sexually ? If so what did you do ?
Did you lead him on ?
Could you have unintentionally signaled interest in him ?
What time was it ?
Where were you ?
Where had you been earlier ?
At what point did you tell him no ?
Did you actually tell him no ?
Could he have thought you meant yes, even though you were saying no ?

ALL of western society has a built in negative bias against women's sexuality. Way back in the dark ages a couple priests (in my opinion a couple of women hating homosexuals) wrote a book in which they claimed men were NOT to be held accountable for their sexual indiscretions. Hubby stopped off at the whore house or the widow woman's down the road for a little nookie on the side, NOT his fault !! Boy next door rapes your daughter ? NOT his fault !! Any man, anywhere, having sex with a woman is NOT to be held accountable for his actions. Wives were to NEVER refuse their husbands. Her body was literally HIS property.

Their theory was, since woman can't control their periods, they can't control their sexuality. SO, as a result, there is all this UNCONTROLLED sexuality just floating around in the air, and ANY man is subject to being over powered by it and having little control in his actions. A man's ONLY fault, was NOT being Godly enough !!!! His ONLY defense against the urges created by all this sexuality floating around, was lots of prayer and becoming closer to God !!!

This mind set is deeply embedded in the western psyche. Freud codified it in his theory of the Madonna Whore complex, but he largely ignores the religious roots of it all.

When asked who are the two most famous women in the bible ? 99% will say the two Marys, one the virgin mother of Jesus, the other a whore. This is how many men, and more than a few women, see women based on their sexuality.

Good girls get the husband, the diamond ring, the house in the burbs, the 2.5 kids, the dog and the mini van and most of all, respectability. Bad girls get, well, to be bad girls. Used and abused for fun and games and then ignored and forgotten.

This IS the reality of western society.
you sick fuck.

if this is really how you think, you need to be locked up for everyones protection. after all, you are a western man, this must be your attitude.

also, fuck you, i dont think any of this, how dare you accuse me of being as perverse as you are.
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