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Old October 26th, 2017, 10:01 AM   #21
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I'll go you one better !!!!

Equifax gets hacked. The financial data of 145,000,000 people, quite literally almost half the people in the nation, is possibly compromised. So what do they do ??

First, they wait WEEKS to notify the relevant agencies about the data breech.

Then they set up a website so consumers can see if their data has been compromised. However buried WAY DOWN DEEP in the fine print was language that said, if you use the website to see if your data has been compromised, you AGREE NOT TO SUE EQUIFAX. You have to submit to arbitration, which 80% to 90% of the time sides with the business.

The backlash was massive and Equifax was forced to remove the language. Now the Consumer Protection Agency, set up after the housing crash, has already implemented a rule that prohibits mortgage lenders from forcing arbitration. They had a similar rule set to go into effect in March of next year for credit cards, reporting agencies and other consumer loan and credit related businesses.

Last night, at 10pm our lovely, compassionate and oh so protective of the average guy, Republicans quietly voted to KILL THE RULE. It's expected that Trump will sign it !!!!

64% of Republican support the rule.
73% of Democrats support the rule.
67% of independents support the rule.

That's pretty substantial support for a rule. Yet last night our legislators showed us WHO OWNS THEM and that they have absolutely sold their souls to corporate America, killed it off.
I knew there was a company called Equifax, but I had no idea what this company did. They could make Fax machines for all I knew or cared and have been out of the country numerous years. Only through John Oliver and his HBO show, Last Week Tonight, I even knew what Equifax was.

Sort of a niave question, but how did Equifax even amass information on 145 million people. 145 million people is the majority of the adult population of the United States. There are about 320 million Americans, how many are under 18? Or under 21? This is basically everyone! Their Wiki page states that they have information on 800 Million people. That is well over 10 percent of the World's population. That's scary. 800,000,000 people need credit?

How in the hell did this company get all these peoples' Social Security numbers? No one should have this number except the bearer of that number and their place of employment. If anyone else uses it without the permission of the bearer of the number, that should be a Felony. Your state government should not have access to your SSN. Should be none of their business.

Why does Equifax need my Social Security Number? They should already have enough information about me to know who I am. But people give their personal information to private businesses all the time. One of the most asinine successful business models is Costco. Actually getting people to pay for a membership, and give away their personal information for the ability to shop in their impersonal, grey warehouse buying shit in bulk. All Costco does is take our information, sell our information, sell our data on what we like to buy and all that. Why? None of your business. You sell a lot of Doritoes. You dont sell a lot of Munchos. You know what sells and what doesnt, you dont need my help.

Social Security is BS and this is a reason why. The government gives the citizen a prison number and forces the citizen to get their permission for employment (no SSN, no legal employment for citizens). I can do a lot with a social security number and a name of a male around my age. I will take your name and get a job and live your life. I wouldnt be a dick and open bank accounts and crap, but I can escape who I am and be you. I wish I could go back as a teenager in the 1980's and get a Birth Certificate of a dead baby my age and take their identity and then got two Social Security Numbers. If one identity gets in trouble, be the other identity. You cannot do that anymore.

I am 50 years old and have never had credit. Ever. I have also (thought about it today) have never ever, ever paid for any insurance. I am very proud of this fact. My state didnt require auto insurance, and if I did have medical insurance, my company paid for it. Life insurance is bullshit too, because lots of people have been killed for life insurance. Back in the early to middle parts of the 20th Century, lots of women were feeding their husbands and kids arsenic, rat poison, cyanide and bullshit causing death for a big settlement and more than one lady took a ride on the Gruesome Gertie and was fried like a squirel on a powerline.

The only thing one should ever buy on credit is a home. That's it. I am poor and actually not that financially responsible but I am not in debt to anyone or had to beg for many years. "Credit Scores" rankle me, like this is something of importance and why people are so scared of getting a "bad score". Life is so short.

Lastly, quit buying shit from Amazon, get your ass off the computer and go shopping. Support your economy.

Why don't everyone take a picture of their butt and send it to Eqifax's Facebook page? That will teach them. (drinking tonight)

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Old October 26th, 2017, 10:40 AM   #22
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And what makes you think cutting taxes is going to raise worker pay ???

It didn't when Raygun gave us the single biggest tax cut in history. It didn't again when Bush cut taxes again. It didn't again when Obama cut a deal to make those tax cuts permanent. In fact, the average American worker hasn't had a meaningful pay raise in almost two decades. With inflation, even at extremely low levels, workers have actually started losing pay.

Once info on the tax plan was made available, a plan which gives corporations a HUGE cut, hedge fund managers started investing in AUTOMATON companies. It seems companies are going to use their windfalls to invest in robots and automated assembly lines so they can CUT JOBS !!!!!

Nope company execs are going to take that extra money, give themselves huge fucking bonuses and maybe a few extra pennies a share to the stock holders and call it a day. Their average workers won't see a fucking dime extra in pay.
It won't increase pay until this country stops being flooded with cheap foreign labor. Once the pay for introductory-jobs was increased, employers started moving toward automation. Business in not in business to make friends. They are in business to make money.
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Old October 26th, 2017, 08:10 PM   #23
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It won't increase pay until this country stops being flooded with cheap foreign labor. Once the pay for introductory-jobs was increased, employers started moving toward automation. Business in not in business to make friends. They are in business to make money.


And who do you think has the ear of congress ?? Who do you think is keeping congress from actually doing something about illegal immigration ?? The every same people who run those very same companies that are about to be handed MASSIVE fucking tax cuts and who are going to use that money to upgrade factories to use less employees. It's a perfectly circular shit storm and we, the average Joes of the world, are going get covered in it !!
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Old October 27th, 2017, 05:50 AM   #24
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of course, you are correct

to claim (or worse yet, actually BELIEVE) anything different is very ignorant or extremely naive - or a combination of both.


Tris, I just don't get it. The people who buy into this crap--who vote against their OWN best interests---??? What the heck??
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Old October 27th, 2017, 05:56 AM   #25
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Tris, I just don't get it. The people who buy into this crap--who vote against their OWN best interests---??? What the heck??
They always deny the existence of brainwashing under capitalism, but it is ubiquitous. They believe that if only they were better at thieving, everyone could be rich.
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Old October 27th, 2017, 08:34 AM   #26
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It won't increase pay until this country stops being flooded with cheap foreign labor. Once the pay for introductory-jobs was increased, employers started moving toward automation. Business in not in business to make friends. They are in business to make money.


Cheap foreign labor? Are you speaking of illegals?? Golly gee--don't tell me that big corp is hiring illegals?? Shocking! Isn't it illegal to hire illegals? I'm thinking of a word....what is it....hmmm...OH YEAH--PROSECUTION?? Of big corps?

AND are you really saying that employers *STARTED* moving toward automation a couple of years ago--because it was THEN that wages went up??
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Old October 27th, 2017, 09:17 AM   #27
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And who do you think has the ear of congress ?? Who do you think is keeping congress from actually doing something about illegal immigration ?? The every same people who run those very same companies that are about to be handed MASSIVE fucking tax cuts and who are going to use that money to upgrade factories to use less employees. It's a perfectly circular shit storm and we, the average Joes of the world, are going get covered in it !!
Automation has been coming for a long time. Asking for wages that were completely out of the realm of possibility only served to speed up the process.
The E-verify system, and the stopping of chain-migration bill has been introduced in the House. We will see soon who will represent legal American citizens, and who won't.
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Old October 27th, 2017, 09:25 AM   #28
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Cheap foreign labor? Are you speaking of illegals?? Golly gee--don't tell me that big corp is hiring illegals?? Shocking! Isn't it illegal to hire illegals? I'm thinking of a word....what is it....hmmm...OH YEAH--PROSECUTION?? Of big corps?

AND are you really saying that employers *STARTED* moving toward automation a couple of years ago--because it was THEN that wages went up??
Cheap foreign labor includes legal and illegals! Of course it's illegal to hire illegals. Why don't you ask your representatives why the law hasn't been enforced. Do you think Obimbo may have had something to do with it? Automation has been in the works for decades. When wages surpass the employers ability to make a profit, what comes next? Answer, simple, AUTOMATION!!
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They always deny the existence of brainwashing under capitalism, but it is ubiquitous. They believe that if only they were better at thieving, everyone could be rich.
How so?
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Old October 27th, 2017, 09:46 AM   #30
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Cheap foreign labor includes legal and illegals! Of course it's illegal to hire illegals. Why don't you ask your representatives why the law hasn't been enforced. Do you think Obimbo may have had something to do with it? Automation has been in the works for decades. When wages surpass the employers ability to make a profit, what comes next? Answer, simple, AUTOMATION!!
God you stupid, an everyone knows that fact. Your comment trying to blame this immigration problem on Obama when It has gone on for decade is the lowest level of stupid. Mindless hate driven bullshit. That's all you hater have.
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