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Old November 12th, 2017, 07:52 AM   #91
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There was no need for clarification. A 7th grader could understand. It's one of your tactics. Like I said, you repeat the same old tired game, demand clarification and accuse poor reading comprehension. You're a boor.
"You say, "Now they must just jump through hoops of the state to avoid them." To avoid what? Harming the community? Clarify that statement for me."

The point needs clarification.
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Old November 12th, 2017, 07:55 AM   #92
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And why wasn't action taken up against the mining companies?
When?

The old mines operated without environmental regulations, so technically they weren't breaking the law.

Instead, they offloaded the cost of properly disposing the toxic mine waste ... to increase their profit.
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Old November 12th, 2017, 08:07 AM   #93
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"You say, "Now they must just jump through hoops of the state to avoid them." To avoid what? Harming the community? Clarify that statement for me."

The point needs clarification.
Nope. I understand it. Everyone except for you and Hollywood understand it. That speaks volumes. By the way, I didn't say it. Go back and find out for yourself who said it. You're as easily confused as Hollywood is.

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Old November 12th, 2017, 08:12 AM   #94
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Nope. I understand it. Everyone except for you and Hollywood understand it. That speaks volumes.
So, tell us what your understanding is.

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Old November 12th, 2017, 08:14 AM   #95
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The hell it didn't have a point. You know, the point, what you and Sabtroll are avoiding.
The point is clear to me. Not my problem that you and Hollywood can't see it.
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Old November 12th, 2017, 08:15 AM   #96
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So, tell us what your understand is.
Big intrusive costly government regulations stifling economic growth.
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Old November 12th, 2017, 08:33 AM   #97
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Big intrusive costly government regulations stifling economic growth.
In 2008 the lack of regulations allowed Wall Street to kill long term economic growth for their own benefit. Is that the economic growth to which you refer ?
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Old November 12th, 2017, 08:37 AM   #98
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Big intrusive costly government regulations stifling economic growth.
Well now, that's a cute little meme used by the RW to justify opposing any and all regulations placed on corporations by local, state or federal governments. However, it's not an answer to the question posed.

Sabcat's statement was, "Now they must jump through hoops of the state to avoid them."

Let's assume the "they" he refers to is corporations. We'll further assume that
"jump through hoops of the state" means obeying legal state and federal laws and regulation. That leaves "to avoid them."

Now, by "to avoid them" did he mean by obeying the laws and regs corporations avoid lawsuits for damage by private citizens and communities? IF that is the case what are they bitching about?
Is Sabcat saying it would be CHEAPER to just go ahead and fuck over the environment, the communities and the public and take the chance on losing an occasional lawsuit than it would be to obey the state and federal government regulations?
Seems that way to me and it seems to me you would be in agreement with that stance.
Now, being the sweet-natured and fair-minded person that I am I simply asked for clarification instead of making an assumption. And YOU boys started to tap dance.

Asking you as you seem to have chosen to speak for Sabcat on this issue. Don't see him around talking about that exchange between he and I.
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Old November 12th, 2017, 08:46 AM   #99
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When?

The old mines operated without environmental regulations, so technically they weren't breaking the law.

Instead, they offloaded the cost of properly disposing the toxic mine waste ... to increase their profit.
If they were damaging the community if the people could demonstrate that the damages were a direct result of the companies practices they could have seeked repreations from the company. It was common practice pre epa. If the damages were to the water system that would have been public damages so then there would have been more bureaucratic hoops to jump thru.


I lived in the mountains in Montana, in gold areas. I am aware first hand of the destruction of gold mining.


Are we better off now that we have the epa then we were before it? Think carefully and objectively on that question.
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Old November 12th, 2017, 09:05 AM   #100
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If they were damaging the community if the people could demonstrate that the damages were a direct result of the companies practices they could have seeked repreations from the company. It was common practice pre epa. If the damages were to the water system that would have been public damages so then there would have been more bureaucratic hoops to jump thru.


I lived in the mountains in Montana, in gold areas. I am aware first hand of the destruction of gold mining.


Are we better off now that we have the epa then we were before it? Think carefully and objectively on that question.
So, post #72 is STILL flying about a mile over your head I see.
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