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Old November 19th, 2017, 03:13 PM   #31
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"Bait you?"
I'm sorry, did I say that you were bitter and filled with hatred/vitriol or was that you talking to me?
The only think I did was point out, quite accurately I must say, was that you did not say I was incorrect.
Why do you think someone disagreeing with you, or simply requesting proof of a statement you made, constitutes "picking a fight" or is "baiting you?"
That's awfully odd, IMHO.

Who's baiting who?
Keep trying, it won't work. Did you stop beating your ex yet?
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Old November 19th, 2017, 03:13 PM   #32
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See how that works?
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Old November 19th, 2017, 03:17 PM   #33
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Keep trying, it won't work. Did you stop beating your ex yet?

Which one?

Again, no attempt to even try and claim that my post was not factual and correct. No attempt at all, nada.
Just a simplistic and mindless "that won't work."
I think the principle is that if one sounds arrogant and dismissive enough no one will notice how full of shit you are.
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Old November 19th, 2017, 03:24 PM   #34
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LOL, then why'd you ask a silly question? You know that I knew. You also know that I know what I'm talking about Biblically.
You're the one who asked the silly question. Just to emphasis it I decided to answer.
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Old November 19th, 2017, 03:47 PM   #35
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The Great Apostasy

2 Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, 2 not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ[a] had come. 3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition,
I don't believe in the inerrant Bible. I don't believe in the Trinity - making Yeshua equal to God - or eternal hell, a great crowd control concept.

I don't believe in Christian nations, nor do I believe God takes sides in wars.

But I have had my eyes on the Gospel taught by Yeshua for 45+ years, and the prophecies of the OT and NT, as well as the falling away of professed Christians who've forgotten the Gospel, practicing another Gospel and worshiping another Christ ... which was prophesied.

These are the end days. I don't know where we go from here, but I'm sure humans, all 7+ billion of us, have created a worldly system that is beyond rescue. Like Dylan sang, a hard rain's gonna fall.
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Old November 19th, 2017, 03:51 PM   #36
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I do not begrudge nor judge anyone their views or beliefs. I am also fine being judged, none of it matters.
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I believe in Christ, I use the Bible for guidance, it's a good guide of character, but i do not call myself a 'Christian'. I don't walk the shoes of Christ, i merely thank him for the forgiveness he granted me at his death. .
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I have had my eyes on the Gospel taught by Yeshua for 45+ years, and the prophecies of the OT and NT, as well as the falling away of professed Christians who've forgotten the Gospel, practicing another Gospel and worshiping another Christ ... which was prophesied.
Can you elaborate on that? I'd like to hear more.
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I must have missed it, Christianity isn't going anywhere though.
Don't worry about Goober, he's a few snags short on this issue but I assure you he means well and he is as sincere as he is harmless. He's a good guy.
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The Death of Christianity in the U.S.

By Miguel De La Torre | November 13, 2017

Christianity has died in the hands of Evangelicals. Evangelicalism ceased being a religious faith tradition following Jesus’ teachings concerning justice for the betterment of humanity when it made a Faustian bargain for the sake of political influence. The beauty of the gospel message — of love, of peace and of fraternity — has been murdered by the ambitions of Trumpish flimflammers who have sold their souls for expediency. No greater proof is needed of the death of Christianity than the rush to defend a child molester in order to maintain a majority in the U.S. Senate.

Evangelicals have constructed an exclusive interpretation which fuses and confuses white supremacy with salvation. Only those from the dominant culture, along with their supposed inferiors who with colonized minds embrace assimilation, can be saved. But their salvation damns Jesus. To save Jesus from those claiming to be his heirs, we must wrench him from the hands of those who use him as a façade from which to hide their phobias — their fear of blacks, their fear of the undocumented, their fear of Muslims, their fear of everything queer.

Evangelicalism has ceased to be a faith perspective rooted on Jesus the Christ and has become a political movement whose beliefs repudiate all Jesus advocated. A message of hate permeates their pronouncements, evident in sulphurous proclamations like the Nashville Statement, which elevates centuries of sexual dysfunctionalities since the days of Augustine by imposing them upon Holy Writ. They condemn as sin those who express love outside the evangelical anti-body straight jacket.

Evangelicalism’s unholy marriage to the Prosperity Gospel justifies multi-millionaire bilkers wearing holy vestments made of sheep’s clothing who discovered being profiteers rather than prophets delivers an earthly security never promised by the One in whose name they slaughter those who are hungry, thirsty and naked, and the alien among them. Christianity at a profit is an abomination before all that is Holy. From their gilded pedestals erected in white centers of wealth and power, they gaslight all to believe they are the ones being persecuted because of their faith.

Evangelicalism’s embrace of a new age of ignorance, blames homosexuality for Harvey’s rage rather than considering the scientific consequences climate change has on the number of increasing storms of greater and greater ferocity. To ignore the damage caused to God’s creation so the few can profit in raping Mother Earth causes celebrations in the fiery pits of Gehenna.

Evangelicalism forsakes holding a sexual predator, an adulterer, a liar and a racist accountable, instead serving as a shield against those who question POTUS’ immorality because of some warped reincarnation of Cyrus. Laying holy hands upon the incarnation of the very vices Jesus condemned to advance a political agenda — instead of rebuking and chastising in loving prayer — has prostituted the gospel in exchange for the victory of a Supreme Court pick.

Evangelicalism either remained silent or actually supported Charlottesville goose steppers because they protect their white privilege with the doublespeak of preserving heritage, leading them to equate opponents of fascist movements with the purveyors of hatred. Jesus has yet recovered from the vomiting induced by the Christian defenders of torch-wielding white nationalists calling for “blood-and-soil.”

The Evangelicals’ Jesus is satanic, and those who hustle this demon are “false apostles, deceitful workers, masquerading as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is not surprising, then, if his servants also masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve” (2 Cor. 11:13-15, NIV).

You might wonder if my condemnation is too harsh. It is not, for the Spirit of the Lord has convicted me to shout from the mountaintop how God’s precious children are being devoured by the hatred and bigotry of those who have positioned themselves as the voice of God in America.

As a young man, I walked down the sawdust aisle at a Southern Baptist church and gave my heart to Jesus. Besides offering my broken heart, I also gave my mind to understanding God, and my arm to procuring God’s call for justice. I have always considered myself to be an evangelical, but I can no longer allow my name to be tarnished by that political party masquerading as Christian. Like many women and men of good will who still struggle to believe, but not in the evangelical political agenda, I too no longer want or wish to be associated with an ideology responsible for tearing humanity apart. But if you, dear reader, still cling to a hate-mongering ideology, may I humbly suggest you get saved.

https://baptistnews.com/article/deat.../#.WhGE5ktrxyo
Meh; Religion is man made, we interpret the Bible as we see fit, not as it was intended. Mostly because we are dumb humans, but we also want to elevate ourselves. Kinda pathetic.
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