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Old January 17th, 2018, 10:37 AM   #11
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Actually dipstick it was Joe Wilson from South Carolina that yelled "you lie", not justice Alito. Alito mouthed the words but said nothing. This is the third or fourth time you've made this erroneous assertion.
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He mouthed it, maybe. He didn't shout it. That was a different Republican asshole.
You are welcome to insult me, ( I won't do so in kind, because I am here to discuss, not exchange vulgarities) or discuss at length who mouthed what and who said it. That doesn't distract from the fact that liberals were all upset that someone dared to utter the words.
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Old January 17th, 2018, 10:47 AM   #12
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You are welcome to insult me, ( I won't do so in kind, because I am here to discuss, not exchange vulgarities) or discuss at length who mouthed what and who said it. That doesn't distract from the fact that liberals were all upset that someone dared to utter the words.
Excuse me, but YOU have, in at least three possibly four, different posts stated that it was Alito that SHOUTED "you lie" during the Obama's SOTU speech.

It was NOT Alito. If you're going to make a point at least get your facts straight.

Now, if you want to discuss the left's reaction to Joe Wilson shouting from the gallery, we can go there.
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Old January 17th, 2018, 11:08 AM   #13
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Some people have no shame, and that includes grandstand master Flake. Comparing a sitting prez to a dictator while climbing up Cuba's human rights violators asses is no accomplishment and nothing to be applauded.
Now of course, any time the previous prez was criticized, his posse quickly yelled "racist" in his defense. So there is that.
Does anyone recall Alito yelling "you lie" and the uproar that ensued? Yet here we are, congratulating the soon has been Senator for doing much worse. The hypocrisy is just amazing.
Here’s the thing. I don’t recall a lot of people being called racist during Obama’s administration.

What I do recall are a lot of unwarranted attacks on Obama and when someone would point out the silliness of the attack then the original attacker would cry, “See, they’re calling me racist!”
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You are welcome to insult me, ( I won't do so in kind, because I am here to discuss, not exchange vulgarities) or discuss at length who mouthed what and who said it. That doesn't distract from the fact that liberals were all upset that someone dared to utter the words.
The context and the setting are irrelevant to you? A measured articulate speech as opposed to some asshole interrupting and heckling are equivalent in your mind?
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Old January 17th, 2018, 11:13 AM   #15
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Well, I guess we have thread fail here as it has blasted off into other directions.

But seriously, Jeff Flake, LOL. Seems as if he's auditioning for a job at CNN or MSNBC once his term is over.

This the same MSM that makes up stories out of whole-cloth regarding President Trump and then run with them.
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Here’s the thing. I don’t recall a lot of people being called racist during Obama’s administration.

What I do recall are a lot of unwarranted attacks on Obama and when someone would point out the silliness of the attack then the original attacker would cry, “See, they’re calling me racist!”
Selective memory does not make you correct.

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The era of ‘hope and change’ was supposed to usher in a ‘post-racial’ era. Instead it’s now the appalling norm to blame any political opposition to the president on racism.

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As Americans participate in the post-Thanksgiving rite of passage known as Black Friday, I can’t help but reflect on a disturbing trend that increases with each passing day of the Obama presidency: If you disagree with the president, you must be racist.

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But for supporters of the president and his agenda, the new insurgency could not be rooted in the finest of American traditions set forth during the American Revolution. Instead the opposition to the president had to be due to Obama’s skin color.

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Today I am appalled that blaming genuine political opposition to Obama and his policies on racism has become the norm rather than the exception. It would be one thing if this sort of cheap political attack were limited to Chris Matthews and his colleagues at MSNBC, where charges of racism surface frequently. But in August, when Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) accused his Republican colleagues of obstructing the president’s agenda because of the color of Obama’s skin, the leader of the world’s greatest deliberative body revealed himself to be nothing more than a cheap racial huckster who will say or do anything to perpetuate a cynical untruth.

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Are there racists in America? Yes. Are there racists in the Republican Party who oppose Obama? Most certainly. But citing racism as the cause for legitimate policy and political opposition by representatives elected by the people to serve in Washington does this country a great disservice.

In the short term, using the race card—which Obama implicitly endorses by not speaking out against it—will blunt some political opposition to the president and his scorched-earth, win-by-any-means-necessary approach. I’m more worried about the longer-term ramifications for the American body politic.

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CNN is reminding me of a South Park episode where the word "shit" was repeated a couple of hundred times....

CNN....South Park......same- same.....
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On the rare occasion when anyone in the MSM criticized Obama, Obama went ballistic.

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Appearing with Good Morning America's George Stephanopoulos on Wednesday, liberal New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd derided Barack Obama as "thin-skinned" and not happy with media coverage. This prompted Stephanopoulos to admit, "And his press hasn't been nearly as bad as he thinks."
https://www.mrc.org/articles/maureen...edia-portrayal

The MSM fawned over him.
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Follow my link and listen to Sen. Flake, who nails it.
Jeff Flake rips Trump: A president 'who cannot take criticism ... is charting a very dangerous path'

Republican Sen. Jeff Flake, a frequent critic of President Donald Trump, took to the Senate floor Wednesday morning to rebuke the President for his repeated attacks on the truth as well as his colleagues for failing to be a check on Trump.

"No longer can we compound attacks on truth with our silent acquiescence. No longer can we turn a blind eye or a deaf ear to these assaults on our institutions," Flake said in his speech. "An American president who cannot take criticism -- who must constantly deflect and distort and distract -- who must find someone else to blame -- is charting a very dangerous path. And a Congress that fails to act as a check on the President adds to the danger."

..."For without truth, and a principled fidelity to truth and to shared facts, Mr. President, our democracy will not last," Flake said.

He criticized the President for calling the news media the "enemy of the people," calling it "an assault as unprecedented as it is unwarranted."

..."It is a testament to the condition of our democracy that our own President uses words infamously spoken by Joseph Stalin to describe his enemies," he said. "It bears noting that so fraught with malice was the phrase 'enemy of the people,' that even Nikita Khrushchev forbade its use, telling the Soviet Communist Party that the phrase had been introduced by Stalin for the purpose of 'annihilating such individuals' who disagreed with the supreme leader."
Lots more: Jeff Flake rips Trump in Senate speech - CNNPolitics
Actually Trump's rants are Cathartic it is his way to deal with false accusatons and attacks on his family

you notice his actions have worked, it is has forced NOKO and SOKO to return to talks that Obama's complacency only kept from occurring.

Now the world is beginning to deal with the Israeli and Palestinian peace process, where they had stopped because of Obama Complacency
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Old January 17th, 2018, 07:07 PM   #20
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Oh I thought this was going to be a thread about Obama. Never mind.
Understood. You're not that bright, so naturally you'd make that mistake. It's OK....
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