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Old February 19th, 2018, 09:32 PM   #1
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Russia has tried to influence the

USA and the deep state in this country, uses it to modify our thinking, fear, and made attitude adjustments...It's been going on since I was ten years old, about.
Time and means does not effect them....
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Old February 21st, 2018, 03:14 PM   #2
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Do you think Russians have such ability? Remember the U.S.S.R. just collapsed two decades ago and Russia just under sanction right now by the western countries.

Truth of 2016 president election

The core is to help Trump to grab the president power.
The mastermind is the FBI.
Russian is only a scapegoat hired to get the thing done.

Clinton is victim but has been targeted by the FBI

Hillary's email was hacked. She is a victim. Russian (or the FBI) is the thief. But in this election the FBI attacked Clinton all the way to help their candidate Trump to steal the president seat.
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Old March 7th, 2018, 04:30 PM   #3
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930. FBI activate a coup (11/6/2016)


I had such information from internet:

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Cone of silence

According to an FBI source, Comey had over a hundred letters of resignation sitting on his desk. When he walked through the halls, agents would turn their back and look the other way. Then he reopened the case, and "the entire building broke out in cheers".

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BREAKING: Comey mandates All FBI Agents Report to D.C. Offices; Prep for Raids, Possible Arrests in Clinton Probes
Posted on November 4, 2016

http://truepundit.com/breaking-comey...linton-probes/
Apparently, Comey under the pressure of FBI officials to re-open investigation on Clinton's email case. That's an open interference in election. The purpose is to help their candidate - Trump to grab the power seat of president. I think the FBI has big plan in next year.

From my point of view, it's no other than a coup. In dictatorship, the officials activate army to take over control. In US, they activate themselves - secret police.
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Old March 20th, 2018, 02:14 PM   #4
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Russians have a doubt, how could they let us elect president to our will?

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Russian politician: US spies slept while Russia elected Trump

By Zachary Cohen, CNN September 12, 2017

The US government publicly announced in October that it was "confident" Russia orchestrated the hacking of the Democratic National Committee in the lead-up to the election.

And in January, days before President Donald Trump took office, the US intelligence community concluded that Russian President Vladimir Putin had ordered an "influence campaign" aimed at hurting Trump's rival, Democratic Party candidate Hillary Clinton.

Trump has branded the investigation the "single greatest witch hunt" in political history and consistently questioned the intelligence community's findings well into his presidency.

Clinton 'convinced' there was collusion between Trump aides, Russia
Clinton 'convinced' there was collusion between Trump aides, Russia

Since the election, Trump has appeared to view suggestions of Russian meddling as a Democratic effort to de-legitimize his election win, even though the intelligence community did not conclude that Russian efforts made a difference in the election result.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/12/politi...nce/index.html
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Old March 21st, 2018, 11:02 AM   #5
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Do you think Russians have such ability? Remember the U.S.S.R. just collapsed two decades ago and Russia just under sanction right now by the western countries.

Truth of 2016 president election

The core is to help Trump to grab the president power.
The mastermind is the FBI.
Russian is only a scapegoat hired to get the thing done.

Clinton is victim but has been targeted by the FBI

Hillary's email was hacked. She is a victim. Russian (or the FBI) is the thief. But in this election the FBI attacked Clinton all the way to help their candidate Trump to steal the president seat.
If russia does not have the ability, then this whole thing is a strawman......russia did not pick sides, gop or dems, their goal is cause chaos......
our egos makes us bash one another......

And if it is a russian strawman, someone in the usa (socialist, extreme) is doing it........
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Old March 30th, 2018, 03:44 AM   #6
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I think most larger players have tried at one time or another to influence the USA. Heck, I even heard jughead obama tried to influence the elections in Israel. Imagine that?
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941. Payment to Russia for hacking in US election (1/4/2017)

Of course, Russia won't do it for free. There must be a secret deal between the intelligence of the two countries. We outsiders can only see it from some facts.

The secret deal: Hacked email were handed to Wikileaks to issue to hit Hillary Clinton.

The payment of secret deal:

1. Aleppo falls (or "liberated" from Russia side) on 12/15. Resistance and civil withdraw from East Aleppo by bus. Five years fight ends. A big victory for Russia and its allies.

2. Economic interest.

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Japan pledges 300 bil. yen economic package at Abe-Putin summit

December 17, 2016

The total value of Japan's contribution in investment and loans, including through agreements between private sector firms, is around 300 billion yen ($2.54 billion), Deputy Chief Cabinet Secretary Kotaro Nogami said after the leaders' summit.

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Putin dismissed the notion that he was only interested in getting economic benefits from Japan.

"If anyone thinks we’re interested only in developing economic links and a peace deal is of secondary importance, that’s not the case," he told the same news conference. That's all for the controversial islands. He went Japan just for those business deals.


You may say that's something between Russia and Japan. The Truth is Japan is the pocket slave of the US. If you still remember Trump claims credit for $50 billion investment by Japanese firm and 7 billion from a Taiwan firm. They were puppet nations that have to pay their defense share that Trump demands. Include that payment to Russia for the US sake.
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Old April 15th, 2018, 03:48 PM   #8
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If russia does not have the ability, then this whole thing is a strawman......russia did not pick sides, gop or dems, their goal is cause chaos......
our egos makes us bash one another......

And if it is a russian strawman, someone in the usa (socialist, extreme) is doing it........
I must go back to my original reply;

The core is to help Trump to grab the president power.
The mastermind is the FBI.
Russian is only a scapegoat hired to get the thing done.

Clinton is victim but has been targeted by the FBI

Hillary's email was hacked. She is a victim. Russian (or the FBI) is the thief. But in this election the FBI attacked Clinton all the way to help their candidate Trump to steal the president seat.

The recent shout abusing between Trump and the FBI is just a stage show.
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Old April 29th, 2018, 01:39 PM   #9
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How the Russia Inquiry Began: A Campaign Aide, Drinks and Talk of Political Dirt
By SHARON LaFRANIERE, MARK MAZZETTI and MATT APUZZO DEC. 30, 2017

WASHINGTON — During a night of heavy drinking at an upscale London bar in May 2016, George Papadopoulos, a young foreign policy adviser to the Trump campaign, made a startling revelation to Australia’s top diplomat in Britain: Russia had political dirt on Hillary Clinton.

About three weeks earlier, Mr. Papadopoulos had been told that Moscow had thousands of emails that would embarrass Mrs. Clinton, apparently stolen in an effort to try to damage her campaign.

Exactly how much Mr. Papadopoulos said that night at the Kensington Wine Rooms with the Australian, Alexander Downer, is unclear. But two months later, when leaked Democratic emails began appearing online, Australian officials passed the information about Mr. Papadopoulos to their American counterparts, according to four current and former American and foreign officials with direct knowledge of the Australians’ role.

The hacking and the revelation that a member of the Trump campaign may have had inside information about it were driving factors that led the F.B.I. to open an investigation in July 2016 into Russia’s attempts to disrupt the election and whether any of President Trump’s associates conspired.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/30/u...adopoulos.html
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Old April 30th, 2018, 03:49 AM   #10
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USA and the deep state in this country, uses it to modify our thinking, fear, and made attitude adjustments...It's been going on since I was ten years old, about.
Time and means does not effect them....
Let's say they are.

SO WHAT!

It's not like the U.S. hasn't been going around doing the exact same thing to the rest of the world.
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