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Old February 27th, 2018, 09:19 AM   #41
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I'm beginning to think you wouldn't know a FACT if it bit you in the tushie.

Besides, Nunes can't have much "INTELLIGENCE" if he's playing the bit part of BAT BOY for Prez Dictator.

Or is the Schiff Memo simply a cover-up for the FBI and the DOJ ?.. Adam Schiff has shown us he is very adept at stonewalling....
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Old February 27th, 2018, 11:32 AM   #42
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"Page attracted the attention of the FBI in 2013 when a Russian spy tried to recruit him. Page is one of the Trump administration’s many friendly links to the government of President Vladimir Putin—ties that have fueled speculation and questions about the Trump campaign and Russia's efforts to influence the U.S. presidential election."

Page had his first brush with FBI counterintelligence agents, who interviewed him about his contacts. The Russians were charged in a criminal case in 2015, though Page was not identified as their object of interest until April 2017.

The FBI surveilled Page in 2014 and renewed its interest in him in 2016 because it initially viewed him as a potential victim being targeted by Russian intelligence.

The FISA warrants used were renewed every 90 days. The warrant in question was issued October 19,2016 BUT Page had been on the FBI’s radar for years — long before agents were in possession of the dossier. The application cited, among other things, contacts that Page had with a Russian intelligence operative in New York City in 2013, which had surfaced in an earlier case, U.S. officials said.

Deflection alert, because that had ZERO to do with the October 2016 FISA warrant which was used to spy on the Trump campaign.

Indeed, previously Page had helped the FBI in an investigation of several Russians. Interesting how the poster, and the government, failed to mention that fact.

DOJ Documents Show Carter Page Helped FBI Catch Russian Spies

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/chrisr...spies-n2444651

Further, the FISA law requires that a FISA warrant on an American not happen until the FBI question the American person of interest, yet here the FBI never called Page in for an interview over his 2016 trip to Russia.

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One last point of law that is covered in more detail in my column. FISA also requires the FBI and Justice Department to satisfy the court that surveillance — highly intrusive eavesdropping on the phone, email, text, and other communications of the alleged agent of a foreign power — is necessary because the information sought “cannot reasonably be obtained by normal investigative techniques.” (See FISA, Section 1804(a)(6)(C).) Such techniques include interviewing the alleged foreign agent.
And this even after Page had aided them in a previous investigation.

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Old February 27th, 2018, 11:43 AM   #43
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From the Newsweek piece....

An ex-Moscow-based investment banker, he attracted the attention of the FBI in 2013 when a Russian spy tried to recruit him. Page is one of the Trump administration’s many friendly links to the government of President Vladimir Putin—ties that have fueled speculation and questions about the Trump campaign and Russia's efforts to influence the U.S. presidential election.


Again more false piecing together of unrelated bullocks....A Russiaan spy tried to recruit Carter Page.....Did the spy succeed ??...They don't say....just inuendo...

Then Newsweek claims this "Page is one of the Trump administration’s many friendly links to the government of President Vladimir Putin—",,,, What evidence is there of this.......Nothing....


Fact is that Page had helped an FBI investigation of Russians in a previous case.

This makes for a good read:

https://www.redstate.com/streiff/201...-fbi-employee/

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And using Page as an asset by the FBI is not all that strange. When the FBI interviewed Page, or when they ran a background check on him, they would undoubtedly have found out he was a former intelligence officer. I can’t find a technical definition of “undercover FBI employee” but it seems to be more than someone who was acting as a volunteer or out of fear of prosecution themselves.

This begs all manner of questions. If Page, as has been alleged without a shred of evidence, has been under surveillance by the FBI under the provisions of FISA since the time of this investigation, how is it that he was found to be clueless about the Russian espionage in the affidavit? And how did he then morph into an FBI asset that was key to making this ballyhooed conviction? And how did be become so suspicious that he met the criteria of acting as a Russian agent in order to be worthy of surveillance?

None of this adds up. Either the affidavit is false and the press release is false or Page was put under surveillance initially based on false pretenses or Page had not been under surveillance at all until 2016 and the rest is hokum designed to make him look like a security risk when, in fact, he was pretty far from it.
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Old February 27th, 2018, 12:12 PM   #44
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Deflection alert, because that had ZERO to do with the October 2016 FISA warrant which was used to spy on the Trump campaign.

Indeed, previously Page had helped the FBI in an investigation of several Russians. Interesting how the poster, and the government, failed to mention that fact.

DOJ Documents Show Carter Page Helped FBI Catch Russian Spies

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/chrisr...spies-n2444651

Further, the FISA law requires that a FISA warrant on an American not happen until the FBI question the American person of interest, yet here the FBI never called Page in for an interview over his 2016 trip to Russia.

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And this even after Page had aided them in a previous investigation.


OMG! Townhall strikes again. The headline is completely misleading--because THAT'S what Townhall does best. COOPERATING with the FBI is not the same thing--not even close---to "HELPING" the FBI.

The very idea that Page is some helpless lambchop--some innocent sweetheart of a guy is ludicrous. Innocent little lambs don't get surveilled by the FBI over and over FOR YEARS. Judges don't sign FISA warrants for no reason.

Folks who have HELPED the FBI don't get slammed in front of congressional hearings for hours and hours. Page is NOT Forrest GUMP. He's evasive, shifty and strange. He's been a Chatty Kathy in interview after interview. The man even compares himself to Martin Luther King.

Sorry, but Page does NOT pass the smell test.
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Both of these memos are pure bullshit. Nothing more than opinion pieces. They're little more than a couple of "Opposing Views" editorials like those found in USA Today. The Republican are of course going to jump all over the Dem memo in the hopes it'll drag attention away from the latest school shooting and the resulting gun debate.
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The Nunes memo contains salient facts, backed up by Senator Grassley and Senator Graham and their work in the Senate.
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Old February 27th, 2018, 12:23 PM   #47
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OMG! Townhall strikes again. The headline is completely misleading--because THAT'S what Townhall does best. COOPERATING with the FBI is not the same thing--not even close---to "HELPING" the FBI.

You are deflecting from facts, which is all you seem to be capable of.

And yes, he helped in the investigation.
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You are deflecting from facts, which is all you seem to be capable of.

And yes, he helped in the investigation.


AND you live in some alternative universe. ET, phone home. NOW.

If Carter page had "HELPED" the FBI, he would not be in THE SOUP--the very very HOT HOT SOUP.
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Republicans: FBI comes up empty after year of wiretapping to chase charges against Carter Page

Of course you should see the above Red State article as to possibly why.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...confirmed-rep/
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AND you live in some alternative universe. ET, phone home. NOW.

If Carter page had "HELPED" the FBI, he would not be in THE SOUP--the very very HOT HOT SOUP.

What soup is Carter Page in? I think that you have confused him with someone else.
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