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Old April 5th, 2018, 02:37 PM   #1
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Thoughts on Young Adult 'YouTube' Political Activists?

Thoughts on Young Adult 'YouTube' Political Activists?

In recent years, we have seen an increasing rise in young adult "YouTube' socio-political activists/journalists that typically discuss an enormous range of issues. Now, here are the main questions; At that age, is this sensible or problematic? Does it vary from person to person based on individual maturity level?


To be clear, the age group I am most focusing in on is teenager through mid twenties--which could be expanded to all of the twenties (though, a bit more lightly for 'late-twenties'). The argument, as I see it, is that such (relatively) young people necessarily could not have amassed much knowledge through learning and/or life experience as compared to their older counterparts that have been 'training' for many years and whos ideas are much more grounded. Also, to be clear, I am discussing people who engage with a very wide range subjects voluntarily, rather than a person who has been 'pulled' into the conversation and sticks to that particular issue (e.g. returning war veteran, Lindsay Shephard, etc. etc.). People who speak publicly, with authority, on a very broad range of issues are in some sense presenting themselves as a 'sage'. Now, of course, anyone is capable of drastically overestimating their abilities, and simply aging does not make one wiser in-it-of-itself; rather, it supplies people with the requisite time to carry out more extensive training and learn 'life lessons' if they apply themselves--of which the young necessarily do not have. It seems, like Anakyn Skywalker, some of these young have gotten a taste of still developing, though underdeveloped, abilities--and have become 'drunk' by it; drastically overestimating their current abilities. Would it not be wiser for the young to be patient, get their footing, build a solid base (or, even possibly more), and then, after some time, become assertive with their views?

There are plenty of examples of this I can mention, if needed/requested.

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Thoughts on Young Adult 'YouTube' Political Activists?

In recent years, we have seen an increasing rise in young adult "YouTube' socio-political activists/journalists that typically discuss an enormous range of issues. Now, here are the main questions; At that age, is this sensible or problematic? Does it vary from person to person based on individual maturity level?


To be clear, the age group I am most focusing in on is teenager through mid twenties--which could be expanded to all of the twenties (though, a bit more lightly for 'late-twenties'). The argument, as I see it, is that such (relatively) young people necessarily could not have amassed much knowledge through learning and/or life experience as compared to their older counterparts that have been 'training' for many years and whos ideas are much more grounded. Also, to be clear, I am discussing people who engage with a very wide range subjects voluntarily, rather than a person who has been 'pulled' into the conversation and sticks to that particular issue (e.g. returning war veteran, Lindsay Shephard, etc. etc.). People who speak publicly, with authority, on a very broad range of issues are in some sense presenting themselves as a 'sage'. Now, of course, anyone is capable of drastically overestimating their abilities, and simply aging does not make one wiser in-it-of-itself; rather, it supplies people with the requisite time to carry out more extensive training and learn 'life lessons' if they apply themselves--of which the young necessarily do not have. It seems, like Anakyn Skywalker, some of these young have gotten a taste of still developing, though underdeveloped, abilities--and have become 'drunk' by it; drastically overestimating their current abilities. Would it not be wiser for the young to be patient, get their footing, build a solid base (or, even possibly more), and then, after some time, become assertive with their views?

There are plenty of examples of this I can mention, if needed/requested.

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Is David Hogg a prime example of this??
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Is David Hogg a prime example of this??
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Yes, certainly--amongst many others.
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I am all for it if they are open to criticism and dialogue. When they shut down the comments and refuse to entertain debates and/or discussions from those w/ opposing opinions i take issue w/ it. Many are quite content w/in their echo chambers though they are more than comfortable criticising people on the outside from their self created moral high ground.
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I am all for it if they are open to criticism and dialogue. When they shut down the comments and refuse to entertain debates and/or discussions from those w/ opposing opinions i take issue w/ it. Many are quite content w/in their echo chambers though they are more than comfortable criticising people on the outside from their self created moral high ground.
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Interesting.

Now, on particular issues for which they do have requisite knowledge and/or experience--that it is perfectly sensible in my mind, and is to be encouraged. However, a wave of people in their low to mid twenties presenting themselves as sages to the world I view to be extremely naïve, if not the type of high-level arrogance that inevitably leads to self-delusion. I have long thought this, though have recently seen Jordan Peterson make a similar case, articulated well. Further, now that I am a bit older myself (though, still firmly in the age range I am discussing), has hardened my stance.

Here is one such video by Jordan Peterson with his view on the topic:

(A) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8x3hFZx1_VU
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In the following videos, this is a perfect allegorical representation of what I view to be happening (though, of course, not everyone is nearly as skilled as Anakin either):

(A) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYw5KWTe15I

(B ) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYT3ctPuVRw

(C) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx5BTKoXRRA
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@ xMathFanx....We saw the same thing with the Vietnam War protesters....late teens early 20s....99% of them talking like real tough guys, but also like fools... A very small minority of them could actually articulate a valid argument to end the war.. Virtually everybody who was older could see that the vast majority of them were being told what to say and what to think.... Even to this day some of them will still say..."See we were right!!"....Yeah...even a blind pig stumbles into a corn crib once in a while.. What they don't admit is that their aggressive attitude, coupled with a lack of experience, turned a lot of people off, especially in the Government/Military, causing a stubbornness that probably extended the War....You can be right and wrong at the same time...
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Virtually everybody who was older could see that the vast majority of them were being told what to say and what to think.... Even to this day some of them will still say..."See we were right!!"....Yeah...even a blind pig stumbles into a corn crib once in a while.. What they don't admit is that their aggressive attitude, coupled with a lack of experience, turned a lot of people off, especially in the Government/Military, causing a stubbornness that probably extended the War....You can be right and wrong at the same time...
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Yes, my thoughts exactly. I think you really 'hit the nail on the head'.
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Difference was back in the day, the war protesters only had the media (TV, radio, newspapers) who decided who would or would not get exposure.... Today, social media is a force multiplier....These people can now decide if and when and to who they want to get their point across to...
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Difference was back in the day, the war protesters only had the media (TV, radio, newspapers) who decided who would or would not get exposure.... Today, social media is a force multiplier....These people can now decide if and when and to who they want to get their point across to...
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Yes, exactly. It is becoming ever more pervasive and powerful force in the society--which is potentially quite dangerous.

Of course, however, the ability for the 'average' citizen to be empowered is a very good thing, in my view. Many 'average' people have (some) good ideas that are worth sharing. I just think the young should exercise more patience, and thus wisdom/maturity before asserting their views strongly--which I encourage; when they are a bit older (i.e. do not rush into it)
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