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Old April 23rd, 2018, 06:25 AM   #41
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Sabcat started this thread. He whines because we call out the hypocrisy of the Christian Right. Therefore, in that context, it doesnít matter if he is a Christian or not. He is part of a larger group of whiners on the Right.
Do you point out your own hypocrisy?
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Old April 23rd, 2018, 06:30 AM   #42
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In your RW arrogance, combined with simple-mindedness, you STILL do not get it.
Canada is a sovreign country. Canadians will decide WHAT they need to defend itself from, as well as how and when THEY need to.

SOVEREIGN, look the word up if you need to.
Yet every person against illegal immigration in this sovereign nation is wrong according to you. Even though immigration laws say we are right, and have been on the books for years Hypocrite.
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Old April 23rd, 2018, 06:46 AM   #43
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Christians are not against women or gays, just to be accurate.
ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm, they sure want to screw us over with the laws they push.............................
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Old April 23rd, 2018, 06:53 AM   #44
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It is a constant meme amungst the left, especially the radical left here on DTT to go on and on about the "fundie menace" and at the same time protect Islam. These leftists have adopted the term "islomophobia" so far that are in support of hate crime laws using that term. In western society we have made religious law and our governing laws seperate. This is not the truth about Islam. Islam is as political as it is religious and these laws are very, very strict in regards to many of the things we hold dear in western society. Freedom of speech, women and gay rights.

People go on and on about how many far right religious people view homosexuality yet very, very few would support someone being put to death for the lifestyle. Yet in many nations under Islamic rule this is the case..the same w/ womens rightsm they must dress like a beekeeper when they go outside, required to have an escort to do so. What about a young woman who is raped? How about when they go to court?

Seems like leftists are extremely selective when applying their oh so progressive ideals that they like to preach about from their self entitled soapboxes.
I'm selective and here's why: Muslims and their religion are a minority on this side of the world, AND a persecuted minority at that! I know because the non-radical Muslims that I know from work and around my neighborhood have faced low level harassment...usually some assholes yelling something mostly unintelligible from their cars and driving away; And if that's not bad enough, it's Muslim women wearing hijabs who are the most often subject of verbal and physical abuse. Some pundits say it's because their dress is more identifiable than Muslim men, but I know that's bullshit, because if any South Asian for example has a beard and is not a Sikh who also wears a turban (also subject to attack) nine times out of ten he's a Muslim! So, I'll go with the theory that the harassment and abuse is governed by cowardice and women are seen as easier targets.

I should point out that violent religious extremism does not just come from the religious! Up here, are most notable mosque shooting massacre occurred in Quebec, and is still in the news because the assailant is still in court under trial. In Quebec, anti-Muslim, anti-immigrant, and anti-anglo extremism is motivated by secular unreligious French nationalism, and not by some Christian fundamentalist fighting a holy war against Islam like most of the American examples.

So, maybe if I lived in Saudi Arabia I would see things differently....but I don't! Nor do I understand why so many Americans who are so bent out of shape by the threat of Islam support governments and philosophies that ally themselves with the Muslim fundamentalist extremists, not to mention that England and America went out of their way to assist the Muslim extremists desires to take power over democratic secular forces in the Middle East and elsewhere.

Don't excuse Christian fanaticism that supports the oppressive settler state of Israel for no good reasons, and supports US imperialism as 'blessed by god' especially when you have created the conditions that have prevented Muslim people from deposing governments and religious authorities that don't represent their interests!
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ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm, they sure want to screw us over with the laws they push.............................
Name a law Christians are pushing against women right now, be specific, or gays. Name any law that Christians are pushing to screw you over.
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Are you fucking shitting me?
What a load of crap on your part.
Wow, another in depth rebuttal.
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Old April 23rd, 2018, 08:44 AM   #47
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Name a law Christians are pushing against women right now, be specific, or gays. Name any law that Christians are pushing to screw you over.
She can not it does not exist.
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She can not it does not exist.
Any law that restricts women in their choice to have an abortion.

From the GOP platform found on the GOP website

For that reason, as explained elsewhere in this platform, we do not accept the Supreme Courtís redefinition of marriage and we urge its reversal, whether through judicial reconsideration or a constitutional amendment returning control over marriage to the states.
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Any law that restricts women in their choice to have an abortion.

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For that reason, as explained elsewhere in this platform, we do not accept the Supreme Court’s redefinition of marriage and we urge its reversal, whether through judicial reconsideration or a constitutional amendment returning control over marriage to the states.
Yeah, abortion. Thats your go to card on this. I can tell you as a prochoice person that its bat shit crazy to call it a womans choice for the full term of a pregnancy just as much as i call it batshit crazy to call the morning after pill the taking of a life. If a woman can not decide to abort in 20 weeks then she is done and its not her choice. To say that its not a human being after that point is irresponsible, juvenile politics.

I dont really understand the redefinition of marriage as a womans thing. That sounds like a anti-gay marriage platform which would affect males and women, or ze and te and pee or wtf ever social marxism crap you want to push today.
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Old April 23rd, 2018, 09:03 AM   #50
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Any law that restricts women in their choice to have an abortion.

From the GOP platform found on the GOP website

For that reason, as explained elsewhere in this platform, we do not accept the Supreme Court’s redefinition of marriage and we urge its reversal, whether through judicial reconsideration or a constitutional amendment returning control over marriage to the states.
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Yeah, abortion. Thats your go to card on this. I can tell you as a prochoice person that its bat shit crazy to call it a womans choice for the full term of a pregnancy just as much as i call it batshit crazy to call the morning after pill the taking of a life. If a woman can not decide to abort in 20 weeks then she is done and its not her choice. To say that its not a human being after that point is irresponsible, juvenile politics.

I dont really understand the redefinition of marriage as a womans thing. That sounds like a anti-gay marriage platform which would affect males and women, or ze and te and pee or wtf ever social marxism crap you want to push today.
Since Braveheart specifically mentioned gays and that was the post you were responding to, I just assumed you were including laws against gays. Are you saying Braveheart was wrong and Christians are pushing for anti gay laws?

The Supreme Court decision that struck down laws against abortion used the dividing line of “viability” (20 weeks) and I have no problem with that. Assume if I am talking about laws that restrict choice I am talking about laws that restrict abortions prior to 20 weeks.

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