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Old April 23rd, 2018, 10:29 AM   #61
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Any law that restricts women in their choice to have an abortion.

From the GOP platform found on the GOP website

For that reason, as explained elsewhere in this platform, we do not accept the Supreme Courtís redefinition of marriage and we urge its reversal, whether through judicial reconsideration or a constitutional amendment returning control over marriage to the states.
You call that trying to pass laws? Or a move to return to the way the law was?

Heaven forbid we should want civil rights extended to unborn citizens, if you support abortion you support the murder of unborn citizens, some are even women shame on you, war on women, war on women!

Was marriage around before the constitution? If so how is it a right extended only when the constitution was written? I will understand if you can't answer, it is Biblical! I could care less if Homosexuals co habit-ate call it what ever you want it will not be considered marriage in Gods eyes. But don't you ever try to force Churches to marry them.
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Old April 23rd, 2018, 10:31 AM   #62
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Any law that restricts women in their choice to have an abortion.

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For that reason, as explained elsewhere in this platform, we do not accept the Supreme Courtís redefinition of marriage and we urge its reversal, whether through judicial reconsideration or a constitutional amendment returning control over marriage to the states.
Wait, are you for states rights, or against? Can't seem to nail you down on that one, seems as though you are states rights when it suits you!
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Old April 23rd, 2018, 10:32 AM   #63
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Yes it does. It requires that you believe a fetus is somehow a human being. Other than DNA there is nothing about fetus that would indicate it is a human being. It canít breathe, it canít think, it canít communicate. That means there has to be something other than what we can test or measure that makes it human. For the religious that is a ďsoulĒ.
I am sorry but you are wrong, just by observing w/ your eyes a fetus at just a few month's is obviously human. I am not religious or anti abortion yet i have the self honesty to admit that conclusion.
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Old April 23rd, 2018, 10:35 AM   #64
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Yes it does. It requires that you believe a fetus is somehow a human being. Other than DNA there is nothing about fetus that would indicate it is a human being. It canít breathe, it canít think, it canít communicate. That means there has to be something other than what we can test or measure that makes it human. For the religious that is a ďsoulĒ.
It canít breathe, it canít think, it canít communicate? And yet, it is a living organism capable of achieving all three of your demands if allowed to.
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Old April 23rd, 2018, 10:38 AM   #65
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How is abortion viewed in Islam?

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Abortion is haram in Islam, in whatever stage of pregnancy the woman is in. Right from the time of conception abortion is haram. All scholars agree on this point. Deliberate termination of a human fetus in a surgical, chemical or by any other artificial method is intrinsically an unlawful act in Islam and its doer will be held liable both in here and in the hereafter.

A pregnant woman from the Islamic point of view is not the owner of her fetus as parents are not the owners of their children. She is rather entrusted with a human being in its early stages of its life responsible for its nourishment and development. The likeness of a mother's womb in Islam is the likeness of enriched tilth for cultivation.

In Islam ‘all life matters'. Killing an innocent human even in its early stages as in abortion is like killing the whole of mankind, and to save a single human even in its fetus or embryonic stage is like saving the life of the whole of mankind. Killing an innocent human is considered to be one of the mortal sins.

A Prophetic tradition states that on the Day of Judgment the first case is about shedding innocent blood. The terminated fetus will confront its killer saying: “For what sin, was I killed?”




http://www.islamic-laws.com/abortion.htm

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Old April 23rd, 2018, 11:06 AM   #66
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It canít breathe, it canít think, it canít communicate? And yet, it is a living organism capable of achieving all three of your demands if allowed to.
And once it achieves them then it is a human being and deserves protections.

Before then it is not a human.
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VIDEO: Muslims Butcher Woman By Crushing Her To Death With Giant Rocks As She Screams In Agony



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A young Afghan woman who was married against her will has been stoned to death by extremists after she was caught eloping with another man, local officials told AFP on Tuesday.

A graphic video of the stoning shows the woman, named as Rokhsahana, aged between 19 and 21, in a hole in the ground as men almost casually hurl stones at her with sickening thuds.

Rokhsahana was heard repeating the shahada, or Muslim profession of faith, her voice growing increasingly high-pitched in the nearly 30-second clip run in Afghan media. Local authorities confirmed the footage.

The killing took place about a week ago in Ghalmeen, an area some 40 kilometres (25 miles) from the Ghor provincial capital of Firozkoh, governor Seema Joyenda said.

Rokhsahana had been “stoned to death by Taliban, local religious leaders and irresponsible armed warlords,” Ms Joyenda told AFP.

Seema Joyenda, one of Afghanistan’s only two female governors, said that according to authorities’ information Rokhsahana’s family had “married her to someone against her will and she was eloping with a man her age”.



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Well jeepers, if that is the position you are going to take then darn those Christians pushing those laws against theft and murder too, i mean those are specifically mentioned in their magic book.


The horror.
Gee, you mean to say we don't ALREADY have laws against murder and theft so Christians have to PUSH for them????
What...The...Fuck?
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Old April 23rd, 2018, 11:31 AM   #69
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Maybe we should adopt the Sharia law of cutting off the hands of those who steal and rob. A bit excessive but, hey....
WTF does that have to do with the comment you are responding to?
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Old April 23rd, 2018, 11:35 AM   #70
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More rude, nasty, obtuse, statements! Reading comprehension a problem?

Here let me explain, you defend Canada's right to sovereignty, yet if any American wants to defend our right to Sovereignty you shrug (literally).
What on earth is obtuse about my saying "quote the post where i said any such thing." How could I possibly be any clearer?
There, no harsh language, just to please you.
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