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Old April 23rd, 2018, 11:46 AM   #71
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[QUOTE=Braveheart;1162781]You call that trying to pass laws? Or a move to return to the way the law was?

Heaven forbid we should want civil rights extended to unborn citizens, if you support abortion you support the murder of unborn citizens, some are even women shame on you, war on women, war on women!

Was marriage around before the constitution? If so how is it a right extended only when the constitution was written? I will understand if you can't answer, it is Biblical! I could care less if Homosexuals co habit-ate call it what ever you want it will not be considered marriage in Gods eyes. But don't you ever try to force Churches to marry them.[/QUOTE

Huh? Who is trying to force churches to marry people of the same gender if they do not want to?
The Bible does not decide what laws we shall or shall not have. How many times do you people have to have it explained to you that the U.S. is NOT a theocracy?
"Return to the way the law was"...when? The first anti-abortion laws were not passed in the U.S. until the middle of the 19th century.
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Old April 23rd, 2018, 11:49 AM   #72
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How is abortion viewed in Islam?

Let's take a look shall we?







Abortion rules
So what?
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Old April 23rd, 2018, 11:51 AM   #73
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VIDEO: Muslims Butcher Woman By Crushing Her To Death With Giant Rocks As She Screams In Agony






VIDEO: Muslims Butcher Woman By Crushing Her To Death With Giant Rocks As She Screams In Agony | Walid Shoebat
How terrible.
That being said, what in the fuck does it have to do with this thread?
What? Someone here defended that or something?
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Old April 23rd, 2018, 11:57 AM   #74
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Wait, are you for states rights, or against? Can't seem to nail you down on that one, seems as though you are states rights when it suits you!
I am, first and foremost, for individual rights. If a state moves to violate the rights of individual citizens then the Federal Govt has the obligation to step in and tell them they can’t do that.

BTW, states do not have rights (no government has “rights”) they have powers. Do you believe that the individual states have the power to takes away the rights of people and the Federal Govt should be powerless to stop them?
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Old April 23rd, 2018, 12:24 PM   #75
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I am, first and foremost, for individual rights. If a state moves to violate the rights of individual citizens then the Federal Govt has the obligation to step in and tell them they can’t do that.

BTW, states do not have rights (no government has “rights”) they have powers. Do you believe that the individual states have the power to takes away the rights of people and the Federal Govt should be powerless to stop them?
Actually "States" Are Granted 2 rights in the US Constitution.

1. the Right to pass laws to prevent the federal government you usurp powers the Federal Government does not have.

2. Right to form an army (this is one of the 2 rights granted in the 2nd Amendment.)
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Actually "States" Are Granted 2 rights in the US Constitution.

1. the Right to pass laws to prevent the federal government you usurp powers the Federal Government does not have.

2. Right to form an army (this is one of the 2 rights granted in the 2nd Amendment.)
States do not have rights. Rights are innate and cannot be taken away or, as you put it, granted. By saying a state has the “right” to pass laws you are saying that nothing can take that “right” away. Passing laws is a power that is granted to the states by the people (Remember governments get their power by the consent of the governed) ANYTHING a government (city, state, federal) wants to do is a power granted to them by the people. And even those powers are restricted by the rights of the people.
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I am, first and foremost, for individual rights. If a state moves to violate the rights of individual citizens then the Federal Govt has the obligation to step in and tell them they can’t do that.

BTW, states do not have rights (no government has “rights”) they have powers. Do you believe that the individual states have the power to takes away the rights of people and the Federal Govt should be powerless to stop them?
Do States have the right to ignore federal law?
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Name a law Christians are pushing against women right now, be specific, or gays. Name any law that Christians are pushing to screw you over.
women's health clinics, access to abortion and contraception, marriage equality, any trans protections, ability to discriminate against women and LGBTQ due to religious beliefs, denial of healthcare, denial of adoption based on sex/gender discrimination, etc etc etc

get a fucking grip
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You call that trying to pass laws? Or a move to return to the way the law was?

Heaven forbid we should want civil rights extended to unborn citizens, if you support abortion you support the murder of unborn citizens, some are even women shame on you, war on women, war on women!

Was marriage around before the constitution? If so how is it a right extended only when the constitution was written? I will understand if you can't answer, it is Biblical! I could care less if Homosexuals co habit-ate call it what ever you want it will not be considered marriage in Gods eyes. But don't you ever try to force Churches to marry them.
you truly are a misogynist and a homophobic bigot. stop trying to lie and say you are not.

statements like these prove it.......
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Old April 23rd, 2018, 04:53 PM   #80
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women's health clinics, access to abortion and contraception, marriage equality, any trans protections, ability to discriminate against women and LGBTQ due to religious beliefs, denial of healthcare, denial of adoption based on sex/gender discrimination, etc etc etc

get a fucking grip
Let's say all of that is true for the sake of argument. How do you think those things are viewed under Islam?
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