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Old April 26th, 2018, 08:09 PM   #1
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Well they say, you know, things could always be worse....

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1 poll number that should be a wake-up call for politicians

A new Pew poll on how people think about politics and politicians is filled with not-so-positive nuggets. More than six in 10 say that "significant changes" are necessary in American government. Just one in three have a favorable opinion of the federal government. And so on and so forth.

But, amidst all that bad, one number really stood out to me: 3.

That's the percentage of people in the Pew poll who say they have a "great deal" of confidence in elected officials to act in the public's best interest.

3%!!!!

Meanwhile, 52% have "not too much," and 23% have no confidence at all in elected officials looking out for their best interests. Oomph....

(Sidebar: This lack of trust in institutions to look out for the average person is widespread. Just 5% think business leaders act in the public's best interest while 8% say the media looks out for their best interests and 9% say the same of religious leaders. Overall, depressing figures.)
More: https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/26/polit...sis/index.html
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Old April 27th, 2018, 03:15 AM   #2
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More: https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/26/polit...sis/index.html
Term Limits anyone? To many on both sides of the aisle have been there to long and become to corrupt, McConnell, McCain, Pelosi Schumer,
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Old April 27th, 2018, 04:34 AM   #3
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More and more, politics has become essentially a career, and makes rich various people who would struggle otherwise. Over here, in the past, they were semi-retired, bringing business, army or trade-union expertise to the job. Nowadays I'd sooner, in most cases, trust a used car salesman or a house-agent. It is down-hill all the way, to the point they are now often washed-out bores from television, projections the mugs know, but that is hardly useful experience, is it?
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Old April 27th, 2018, 04:38 AM   #4
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More: https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/26/polit...sis/index.html
It's starting to look a lot like the calm before the storm, the fall of an empire.
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Term Limits anyone? To many on both sides of the aisle have been there to long and become to corrupt, McConnell, McCain, Pelosi Schumer,


I'm all for term limits, but the argument is that WE ALREADY HAVE term limits. It's called elections.

Here's the problem: The incumbents are almost always voted IN AGAIN.

We just had that happen in AZ. Debbie Lesko (R) and Dr. Hiral Tiperneni (D).
The GOP poured a truckload of money into Lesko's campaign and of course she WON--AGAIN. She's aiming to be another career politician. Just like McCain and Flake.
She was in the "soup" for campaign finance fraud but WON ANYWAY.
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I'm all for term limits, but the argument is that WE ALREADY HAVE term limits. It's called elections.

Here's the problem: The incumbents are almost always voted IN AGAIN.

We just had that happen in AZ. Debbie Lesko (R) and Dr. Hiral Tiperneni (D).
The GOP poured a truckload of money into Lesko's campaign and of course she WON--AGAIN. She's aiming to be another career politician. Just like McCain and Flake.
She was in the "soup" for campaign finance fraud but WON ANYWAY.
That these incumbents are continually voted in again and again only proves that human beings are inherently stupid creatures and democracy is always destined to fail because of it.
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Term Limits anyone? To many on both sides of the aisle have been there to long and become to corrupt, McConnell, McCain, Pelosi Schumer,
(my bold) Term limits have nothing to do with it. Money in politics has everything to do with it. Since the Supreme Court’s Citizen’s United decision, an avalanche of money has been injected into our political system. As a result, the cost to run the average House or Senate campaign has exploded.

I posted a thread about the recent comments of Mick Mulvaney, head of the Consumer Protection Financial Bureau and self described swamp slayer. He recently told a meeting with 1,300 bankers that he would only meet with lobbyists who paid him. Then he suggested that, if the bankers flooded Republicans with campaign contributions, they would pass legislation to move oversight of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau from the Federal Reserve to Congress and that Congress can starve the agency of funding and the banks can go back to screwing their customers with impunity again. These “swamp slayers” don’t even try to hide it anymore. IT’S THE MONEY STUPID !!!!!
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(my bold) Term limits have nothing to do with it. Money in politics has everything to do with it. Since the Supreme Court’s Citizen’s United decision, an avalanche of money has been injected into our political system. As a result, the cost to run the average House or Senate campaign has exploded.

I posted a thread about the recent comments of Mick Mulvaney, head of the Consumer Protection Financial Bureau and self described swamp slayer. He recently told a meeting with 1,300 bankers that he would only meet with lobbyists who paid him. Then he suggested that, if the bankers flooded Republicans with campaign contributions, they would pass legislation to move oversight of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau from the Federal Reserve to Congress and that Congress can starve the agency of funding and the banks can go back to screwing their customers with impunity again. These “swamp slayers” don’t even try to hide it anymore. IT’S THE MONEY STUPID !!!!!
Yep. NOTHING will change until the corporate/special interest money is removed from the equation. Make is completely illegal for ANY corporation or private interest group to donate a fucking dime to ANY individual politician or political party. NO corporation, no union, not the NRA or the ACLU can donate either cash or goods.

Fund elections with tax-payer money, take $5.00 or whatever from EVERYONE filing a tax refund. Put it in a fund and split that fund evenly with EVERY qualifying political party. That's right, the Democratic party, the Republican Party and yes the Green Party, etc. ALL get the same amount.
Spend the money wisely and may the best candidates win.

People, individual citizens can donate their time and efforts to knock on doors for their candidate, stuff envelopes, drive people to the polls, work the phones. That way common everyday people can have a real impact and elections won't be won so much by the entities that can write the biggest checks but by the party/candidates that can inspire ordinary people to hit the streets and WORK for their party/candidates.
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And yet you continue to misrepresent me, and smear me and reject me. You know the old world order cannot stay yet you wail as I descend upon them with righteous fury. Embrace the collapse with hope for tomorrow; for I am the begining and the end.
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And yet you continue to misrepresent me, and smear me and reject me. You know the old world order cannot stay yet you wail as I descend upon them with righteous fury. Embrace the collapse with hope for tomorrow; for I am the begining and the end.
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