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Old June 6th, 2018, 06:54 PM   #11
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You didn't notice i just agreed with you?
What is it YOU are drinking?
Heineken light.
'Why yes we are' what?.....
Drunk with media? Which explains a lot.
Expect anything of importance to get done? There is no answer, I don't think we expect anything anymore.
Do we really have that much news? Which would require a different answer.

All right, drunk with media. Didn't quite make sense.
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Old June 6th, 2018, 07:01 PM   #12
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Why would I need Advil after drinking Kool-Aid???
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Old June 6th, 2018, 07:11 PM   #13
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Nope, the media just influences voters, that's all.
Accurate information influences informed voters. If you donít want to listen to the media, you have a choice. Complaining about your own choices sounds nonsensical to me.
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Old June 6th, 2018, 07:41 PM   #14
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Accurate information influences informed voters. If you donít want to listen to the media, you have a choice. Complaining about your own choices sounds nonsensical to me.
I stay as far from media as I can. In fact DtT is the most I've seen in 6 months to a year. It's why I'm so slow to answer certain things. I have to look up several sources and make a judgment of all of those, cuz there is never one truth anymore. Probably never was, only the truth they (the rich, or whoever) want us to know. Didn't realize I was complaining about choice.
Can you give me an estimate on the number of 'accurately informed' voters there are? My guess is less than 10%.
That's an inaccurately informed guess. Bet I'm way high on that to boot.
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I stay as far from media as I can. In fact DtT is the most I've seen in 6 months to a year. It's why I'm so slow to answer certain things. I have to look up several sources and make a judgment of all of those, cuz there is never one truth anymore. Probably never was, only the truth they (the rich, or whoever) want us to know. Didn't realize I was complaining about choice.
Can you give me an estimate on the number of 'accurately informed' voters there are? My guess is less than 10%.
That's an inaccurately informed guess. Bet I'm way high on that to boot.
That's an interesting point to ponder. My friends are well-informed, but I'm sure they aren't a representative sample.

The "legacy" media has always influenced people's political views. Some herald the new or alternative/interactive media.

A line from a song written by the old rocker Bruce Cockburn: "Every psychopath has his own magazine these days. I just read about how I can kill in a hundred ways...." 1985. "Alternative" media, legacy style.

Alternative media, more sources, the idea plays into the American ideal that more is better. It's not. If there are a zillion POVs out there, a zillion news merchants will feed each and every one just what they want to hear.

Which brings me back to the question you posed: Can you give me an estimate on the number of 'accurately informed' voters there are?

Yeah, I agree. Not too damned many. Maybe 10 percent. However, the number of people who believe themselves to be well informed might be close to 100 percent.
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Every day?! And yet we expect things of importance to get done?
How truly drunk are we with media?


AND without the media? What would we be? Russia? China?
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Lol!
Oh, I see. You were just being a juvenile smart-ass.
Fine, carry on.
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Heineken light.
'Why yes we are' what?.....
Drunk with media? Which explains a lot.
Expect anything of importance to get done? There is no answer, I don't think we expect anything anymore.
Do we really have that much news? Which would require a different answer.

All right, drunk with media. Didn't quite make sense.
You don't seem to understand that the media is a BUSINESS and not a public service, other than PBS and a few others.
They make their money primarily by selling advertising time or space. The media determines a given story's "importance" on how much attention it will get.
Because attention means more viewers/listeners, whatever. The more "viewers" the higher the ratings, the higher the rating the more you are able to charge for each second of advertising ir lines of ads, whatever.
Need i follow that line of reasoning?
Thanks to the internet and technology the media operates 24 hours a day, seven days a week with THOUSANDS of media outlets all competing for attention. NO media outlet is going to let time, space, bandwidth go blank because no media means no attention, which means no ratings which means no advertising, which means NO FUCKING MONEY.
They would broadcast monkey shit-fights live from the zoo before they would pass up a chance to make more money.

C'mon, all these conservative, pro-capitalists out here and they don't understand BUSINESS???
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That's an interesting point to ponder. My friends are well-informed, but I'm sure they aren't a representative sample.

The "legacy" media has always influenced people's political views. Some herald the new or alternative/interactive media.

A line from a song written by the old rocker Bruce Cockburn: "Every psychopath has his own magazine these days. I just read about how I can kill in a hundred ways...." 1985. "Alternative" media, legacy style.

I want to stress the above sentence because it's something we tend to forget or ignore. Ever since the 2016 election (or as I like to call it "the end of days") American voters are making comments like "I'm sick of the news" OR "media is the enemy" OR "you can't trust the media" OR "they're OUT TO GET Trump" OR "they lie". Little do they realize that our media HAS always been owned by a few powerful men (there's that word "MEN" again).
Even taking into account that many people could not read a word, during the colonial period newspapers were distributed, creating outrage and court trials for libel/slander.
Benjamin Franklin's brother, James, was a newspaper guy. Do you suppose he had political opinions? Do you suppose they were biased? Truthful?
Weekly political pamphlets and patriotic newsletters were distributed before and during the Revolutionary War, revving up the people.
Partisan newspapers flourished. Political cartoons were the rage. Along came people like Horace Greeley, who was a staunch party man whose influence spread. Imagine the printed political firestorms before and during the Civil War. Do we honestly think they were apolitical? Unbiased?

Moving into the 20th century we had the Hearsts, the Pulitzers, the chains and syndicates. Were they fair and balanced?

Here's my point--if you hadn't guessed--American journalists haven't changed ONE BIT. The delivery is different. The mass media is different and players may be different but NEWS and MEDIA and Communications have NOT changed. We would not be the country we are without journalism. Remember that the next time you curse MSNBC or FOX.
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Old June 7th, 2018, 09:50 AM   #20
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AND without the media? What would we be? Russia? China?
What is the MSM pushing? The constant hate Trump meme because he's righting a few wrongs that should have been done years ago. The MSM had no problem pushing the Obimbo socialist agenda.
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