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Old September 4th, 2009, 06:13 AM   #11
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Well, I do live in the Garden state, and my Sewdish ancestors were farmers in Sweden, so...



But my grandpa did disown my mother for marrying a black guy. He was a mental midget though, with a history of supporting the Nazi ideology. I didn't even know him, so I don't feel guilty about how moronic he was.
Considering the stories you tell of your upbringing, he may have had a point.



My wife's father told her to choose him or me. She chose me. But after a few years, when he see's his daughter is more than well cared for and living a very successful life, he's apologized and thanks me for not paying attention to him before. He was never hateful, but if my 16 year old daughter had met a man 9 years older than herself online, I'd be freaked out too.
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Old September 4th, 2009, 06:22 AM   #12
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Considering the stories you tell of your upbringing, he may have had a point.



My wife's father told her to choose him or me. She chose me. But after a few years, when he see's his daughter is more than well cared for and living a very successful life, he's apologized and thanks me for not paying attention to him before. He was never hateful, but if my 16 year old daughter had met a man 9 years older than herself online, I'd be freaked out too.


He didn't really have a point though. My white father was no better than my black step-father. In fact, my step-dad actually contirbuted more to my well being than my father did. For a short time, anyway.



My grandfather had no idea about his character, just his complexion. But all three of them sucked majorly.
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Old September 4th, 2009, 06:26 AM   #13
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He didn't really have a point though. My white father was no better than my black step-father. In fact, my step-dad actually contirbuted more to my well being than my father did. For a short time, anyway.



My grandfather had no idea about his character, just his complexion. But all three of them sucked majorly.
Maybe he should have looked at himself then and wondered why he didn't instill his daughter with the ability to choose a decent mate.
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Old September 4th, 2009, 06:45 AM   #14
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I went on a tour of sights on the Chez border in northern Bavaria Germany and viewed a lot of preserved murals on the ceilings of historic buildings of Adolf Hitler... some of these murals were very inspiring... when I saw this pledge video on the news yesterday I thought of our president and the murals dedicated to Hitler. Hollywood Stars: 'I Pledge To Be A Servant To Our President' | NewsBusters.org
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Old September 4th, 2009, 06:54 AM   #15
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I went on a tour of sights on the Chez border in northern Bavaria Germany and viewed a lot of preserved murals on the ceilings of historic buildings of Adolf Hitler... some of these murals were very inspiring... when I saw this pledge video on the news yesterday I thought of our president and the murals dedicated to Hitler. Hollywood Stars: 'I Pledge To Be A Servant To Our President' | NewsBusters.org


When you thought of our President, you thought of Hitler.



Remember when it was stupid when Bush's detractors did the same comparisons?



I guess they're now patriotic warnings or something lol.

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Old September 4th, 2009, 07:08 AM   #16
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When you thought of our President, you thought of Hitler.



Remember when it was stupid when Bush's detractors did the same comparisons?



I guess they're now patriotic warnings or something lol.
I don't think any person worshiped Bush, I know I didn't, I really shared his political position on many issues but was at opposites on many others... the people and the media that worship Obama want to exterminate any thought that isn't progressive and see the majestic leadership of Obama as the means to transition into a new "reality" where conservatives and traditional values folks are ignorant people that don't deserve representation.



I don't want to worship any politician and none of them have the people's best interest in the front seat... I can only support the politician that best represents the values I find make common sense... Nothing, and I mean absolutely nothing Obama wants to do to change America makes common sense to me... I see his "ram it through" mentality as a method of ignoring half of America. I never saw Bush totally ignore half of America... the nation voted to go to war in Iraq... the politicians without fail voted in majority to continue funding it... all people were represented... in Obama land just write legislation and ask the representatives of the other half to agree or just ignore them and do it.
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Old September 4th, 2009, 07:24 AM   #17
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I don't think any person worshiped Bush, I know I didn't, I really shared his political position on many issues but was at opposites on many others...



Like?


I don't want to worship any politician and none of them have the people's best interest in the front seat... I can only support the politician that best represents the values I find make common sense... Nothing, and I mean absolutely nothing Obama wants to do to change America makes common sense to me... I see his "ram it through" mentality as a method of ignoring half of America. I never saw Bush totally ignore half of America... the nation voted to go to war in Iraq... the politicians without fail voted in majority to continue funding it... all people were represented... in Obama land just write legislation and ask the representatives of the other half to agree or just ignore them and do it.


Oh bullshit, they've rammed nothing through Congress. With every major piece of legislation, the Democrats and the President have done a lot to include tons of Republican input and amendments. In fact one could argue that they're being too damn nice to the GOP. If they were so callous as you claim, health care reform would have already been passed via reconciliation.
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Old September 4th, 2009, 07:34 AM   #18
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Oh bullshit, they've rammed nothing through Congress. With every major piece of legislation, the Democrats and the President have done a lot to include tons of Republican input and amendments. In fact one could argue that they're being too damn nice to the GOP. If they were so callous as you claim, health care reform would have already been passed via reconciliation.
I disagree on healthcare, considering that Obama claimed he might jack taxes on the rich to attempt to fund it, even many Democrats can see that for the bullshit that it is. That's probably one of the biggest reasons why this legislation is stalling. It seems even many democrats aren't that stupid.
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Old September 4th, 2009, 07:41 AM   #19
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Oh bullshit, they've rammed nothing through Congress. With every major piece of legislation, the Democrats and the President have done a lot to include tons of Republican input and amendments. In fact one could argue that they're being too damn nice to the GOP. If they were so callous as you claim, health care reform would have already been passed via reconciliation.
Like immigration and no child left behind... I think they should arrest every illegal, legislate a definition of birth citizenship to former African American slaves and send them all back to the countries they came from... I want to close the Dept. of Education and not expand it.



The stimulus package was pushed through... it was written ... where.... which committee.... it wasn't... it was written by Center for American Progress offered to the House of Representatives and even Democrats could not make significant changes to it.



Every legislation introduced by Pelosi in the House comes out in the form of a closed rule... meaning the Republicans cannot amend it, they can only offer a recommit motion or an alternative legislation. The Senate is the only place legislation can be changed and there it is almost impossible and if a change is agreed to with a quarter dozen Republicans in support the legislation is changed back to the far left position when it goes into committee to reconcile the differences between the House and Senate version. Republicans have zero chance to change shit under these conditions and would be dumb as rocks to vote for any thing in support of health care because it will all be changed removing any improvements the Republicans made and then the ass hole Democrats will claim it's bi-partisan legislation when, in fact it ends up being pure far left original Center for American Progress ideology.
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legislate a definition of birth citizenship to former African American slaves and send them all back to the countries they came from.


You know they're all dead right?



Or are you saying ship descendants of African slaves out of America?
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