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Old March 7th, 2011, 02:59 PM   #1
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He does deserve more respect. Whether you agree with him or not, you know he doesn't change his positions for the sake of re-election, or gaining the GOP nomination.



He's in the face of the GOP, right now, and has been. They don't like him .... which is a pretty good reason TO like him.




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Texas Republican Rep. Ron Paul, chairman of a major House subcommittee and a man with serious ideas and a significant base of support, deserves far more respect thanhe is getting from the media and pundit communities.??



I predict that when the voting begins in the Iowa caucus and the New Hampshire primary, Newt Gingrich, Donald Trump and Sarah Palin will not be running. Neither will Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels, though unlike those three he would be a serious presidential candidate if he decides to run, which I do not believe he will.The media darling of the month, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, will not be a factor either, because he will not run, and the pundits will move on to another flavor of the month long before then.??



If he runs, I predict again that Ron Paul will be one of three Republican finalists, and if the other two are close, he could be a kingmaker. So why doesn't Ron Paul get more respect??

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Paul has serious ideas that have become a significant factor in our national discussion.He has intensely loyal supporters who will come out to vote. He has enormous potential to raise money. The most recent money bomb for Paul was a major success. He chairs a major subcommittee with potential to regularly raise his issues and influence the debate.??



As presidential candidates I think Gingrich, Trump, Palin and Christie are nothing more than media hype and will not be players in 2012. Ron Paul will be a serious player, one way or the other. He deserves far more respect from the political chattering class.


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If he was gay, he would be getting far more respect (or forced respect).
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He does deserve more respect. Whether you agree with him or not, you know he doesn't change his positions for the sake of re-election, or gaining the GOP nomination.



He's in the face of the GOP, right now, and has been. They don't like him .... which is a pretty good reason TO like him.






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I voted for him in 2008. I don't believe he would win next year, even if he runs.







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If he was gay, he would be getting far more respect (or forced respect).


I've heard that he is gay....
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Most of my brothers and sisters hate having blue cheese as a dressing on their salad, to be different I do eat salad with blue cheese as a dressing even though it makes me sick to my stomach.
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The "Tea Party" is just another opportunistic political organization, imo. But, this dissertation on Art. 1, Sec. 8 of the Constitution less interesting in what it addresses than in what it fails to address.



A "word by word" analysis is given, except on these words: "...but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States." And those words are exactly what opponents of the income tax amendment and fiat money created by private bankers, like Paul, focus upon, and with good reason.



The intimate connections between Federal Reserve, the practice of the US paying interest on creating capital, i.e. borrowing, when the Constitution gave that authority to Congress, and the 16th Amendment are quite obvious.



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Congress's First Power Demolishes Tea Party's "Constitutional Principle"





According to Congressman Ron Paul (R-TX), much of what the federal government has done for decades, perhaps an entire century, is not just bad policy, it is beyond the powers granted by the U.S. Constitution. The Tea Party took that belief a step further, claiming that since its actions are beyond its powers, the federal government was a "tyranny". Tea Party candidates ran on a platform of "returning to Constitutional principles".


One wonders if Congressman Paul, or any of the Tea Partiers running on such a platform actually bothered to read the Constitution, or whether they just purchased worn, dog-eared copies to convey that impression.



The very first enumerated power granted to Congress in Article I, section 8, of the Constitution definitively dispels their belief. Unlike the third power, the "Commerce Clause" that has been the subject of centuries of Supreme Court interpretation to determine what is interstate commerce is in a growing, changing and increasingly integrated economy, Congress's first power requires no such midwifery.


Clause 1: The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
The first 14 words grant Congress the power to raise money -- the 16th Amendment added "income tax" to the means (Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises) allowed to raise money.



The next 17 words, "to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States", specify what the money raised is to be used for.



Most simply stated, Clause 1 grants Congress the power to raise money to pay the debts and spend on the common defense AND the general welfare.



Common defense. General welfare. Where did we hear those phrases before? They were part of the mission statement of the United States of America, as set forth in the Preamble to the Constitution.



The general welfare. There is no adjective or adverb qualifying that authority. Article 1, Section 8, Clause 1 grants the United States government the unqualified and unlimited power to raise and spend money, for example, to: provide healthcare for the elderly (or for everyone); provide old-age pension; build roads, bridges, train tracks, airports, electric grids, libraries, swimming pools, housing; educate our children, re-train the unemployed, provide pre-school and day care; fund public health projects; invest in and conduct basic research; provide subsidies for agriculture; save the auto industry; create internets; and, yes, Tea Party Senator Mike Lee (R-UT), even provide emergency aid from natural disasters, and so forth. All subsumed under the authority to spend for the general welfare.



And, of course, the 18th power under Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution is by its own wording combined with each and every power in the Constitution:
To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.
Otherwise known as the "necessary and proper clause", the 18th power makes it as clear as the Supreme Court Justice's financial disclosure rules that the Congress has the authority to enact any law to spend money in pursuit of the general welfare.



That that authority to raise and spend money for the general welfare is broad, deep and unqualified, does not, of course, compel that it is exercised. But, the authority to do so is emblazoned right smack dab as the first of all the powers of Congress.



What about the 10th Amendment, reserving powers not granted to the Federal Government to the States or its citizens? For a specifically stated Article 1 power, the 10th Amendment is irrelevant. That power has been granted. The "necessary and proper clause" provides additional authority to make all Laws to execute the granted powers. One does not even need to address the history of this Amendment and the decision notto include the word "expressly".



Anyone, of course, can argue the wisdom of this or that expenditure. But, the authority to do so was conveyed by the States and its individual citizens when they ratified the Constitution.



It is not, oh Tea Partiers, "tyranny" or a "usurpation" to exercise that authority.



Perhaps you are sorry they did that. But they did. In the Constitution of the United States of America, worn, dog-eared or otherwise.



After all, what's a Founding Father to do?


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Good now raise taxes
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Good now raise taxes


Sure Fayt. Put more air into the tire without fixing the hole. Yeah, it'll work for a while..... till you run out of air.
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Okay just keep taxes where it is, that's smart. Besides doing whats easy for the moment lets do whats hard.
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There's no political will on either side to do what needs to be done.
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