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Old May 16th, 2017, 06:43 PM   #41
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Old May 16th, 2017, 08:26 PM   #42
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No, comrade. We will be needing to empty our prisons of the wretched victims of capitalism and fill them with rust belt trump voters. We will need someone be in charge of the police to help round those people up!
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Well twice now trump has tried to enact policies to help secure the nation, and been stabbed in the back by activist judges.
I'm waiting for some criticism of the activist billionaires who've stabbed him in the back!
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Obama was also your president. Did you give him the benefit of the doubt....?
Did you miss the witchhunt from 2008-2016??
Did you miss the cry babies from 2008-16? Did you miss the accusations? the conspiracies? the attacks? the lies?
Did you miss the Republican Party who presented themselves as a pack of jackals who decried the "one term president"? Do you deny the hypocrisy now?
The problem with the dysfunctional, undemocratic US system is Republicans can only go in one direction...to the right! A big reason for Trump's win (aside from voter disenfranchisment in swing states..which Dems don't talk about for some reason) was that he was the one GOP candidate who outflanked a neoliberal Democratic candidate on a number of boilerplate issues..like the trillion dollar jobs infrastructure proposal. Sure, it fell apart, but where the hell were the Hillarydems on this? Arguing for no change in a year when Democrat voters were demanding change!

But the big problem with the Democratic Party and their coopted media is their ability to shut down any criticism from the left during the 8 years of neoliberalism and war policies of Obama! You had to go out of your way over the past 8 years to find criticism of Obama's deportations..which paved the way for what Trump is doing right now...same with his 7 wars and indiscriminate drone bombings which included the execution without trial of selected US citizens. And to start it all off, the failure to take him on for bailing out Wall Street instead of millions of homeowners talked into buying in to fraudulent 'escalator' mortgage contracts under Bush. But if Obama bailed out foreclosures instead, he wouldn't be collecting $400,000 per speech right now!

A few of the critical voices..and few voices from black America during the Obama years came from Glenn Ford, Bruce Dixon and Margaret Kimberley at Black Agenda Report...


Freedom Rider: Obama Gets Paid
Submitted by Margaret Kimberley on Tue, 05/02/2017
https://www.blackagendareport.com/obama_gets_paid


Barack Obama will be paid $400,000 to speak to a group of finance capitalists. The only thing shocking about the announcement was the reaction from his horrified worshippers. The Obama campaign marketing team should be proud that their salesmanship is so long lived. There were millions of people under the illusion that Obama would represent their interests. He didn’t, of course, and for one very simple reason. He wasn’t hired to work for them. The ruling classes, the 1%, the lords of capital, call them what you will, make the hiring decisions and keep giving out bonuses to the men who do their dirty work.

Of course Obama is getting paid. Wall Street and the banks got their bail outs and then some. They weren’t prosecuted for their crimes which led to loss of jobs and homes. He kept giving and they kept taking and now it is payback time. Obama is just the latest president to get his unjust reward.

The speech at a Cantor Fitzgerald event typifies what former presidents do. So do former prime ministers and presidents of other countries. The capitalists move their capital around the world driving cities into bankruptcy (Detroit) or even nations (Greece) without fear of any hindrance. In return the compliant politicians are well cared for.

“He kept giving and they kept taking and now it is payback time.”

Cantor Fitzgerald describes itself as a “capital markets investment bank.” Its chairman and chief executive supported Jeb Bush in the 2016 Republican campaign and John McCain in 2008. The payout to Obama proves that the big money people ultimately can live with Republicans or Democrats. Why shouldn’t they? They get what they want no matter who is in power.

Barack and Michelle Obama recently signed a $65 million book deal and some are asking why that isn’t enough. That is a good and legitimate question but as is always the case with Obama, the naysayers are shouted down as haters or racists.

White presidents get paid, the first black president should get paid, too. So goes the shallow and pathetic defense. Grow up. Be realistic. Don’t be naïve. If those words were a call for true understanding of how the world works, they might be worthwhile. Instead they are used to defend the indefensible, the fact that the people have no say in their sham political system.

“The payout to Obama proves that the big money people ultimately can live with Republicans or Democrats.”

Of course the critics who clutch their pearls need to wake up. Barack Obama’s 2008 presidential campaign was a thing of marketing beauty, that is to say it was full of lies. All talk of movement politics was a joke. Obama was and is the latest errand boy for big money but he was hyped as a change agent working for our benefit.

The paychecks from book deals and speeches aren’t the only ways that ex-presidents make a fast buck. Bill Clinton’s “foundation” was an influence peddling slush fund which made him very wealthy. Obama is more subtle and probably won’t do anything so obvious. He’ll get big money for his presidential libraries and anything else he desires. But he’ll also be very serious about helping out the lords of capital.

That is why he has returned to public life as propagandist in chief, lecturing us about the evils of fake news. He has to keep rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic that is capitalism and tell us to believe him and not our lying eyes. This pattern exists all over the world. Former UK prime minister Tony Blair has also enriched himself after leaving office. His current task is trying to undo Brexit and the inconvenience it is causing the 1%.

“Bill Clinton’s ‘foundation’ was an influence peddling slush fund which made him very wealthy.”

It is good thing that Obama was so obvious in genuflecting to the people who make everyone else’s life miserable. He may have provided an opportunity to change the level of discourse. The fact that his defenders so casually shrug their shoulders and defend kleptocracy ought to be debated. The notion that elected leaders of a supposed democracy should so openly be on the take must be strongly disputed.

The question should not be whether Obama ought to take money from his bosses. The question is why they are his bosses at all. Obama will not be the last commodified candidate used to get popular support for a rotten system. There are more Obamas in our future. They will help the rich get richer while sleight of hand gives the appearance of working for the needs of the people. Of course that wouldn’t happen if those claiming to be in a state of resistance really meant it. But bringing down the house of finance capital is not a task for the faint of heart or for those confused about how their country and the world really work.

You didn't elect a president. You elected a fraudulent, reckless miscreant.
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Old May 18th, 2017, 05:36 PM   #45
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Get your popcorn: James Comey is insisting that his final Trump-Russia testimony be in public

Today's NYTimes article by Baker and Shear had this to say: Trump warning to Comey Prompts questions on "TAPES". "President Trump on Friday warned James B. Comey, the F.B.I. director whom he fired this week, against leaking anything negative about him, saying that Mr. Comey “better hope” that there are no secret tapes of their conversations that the president could use in retaliation.
The suggestion that the president may be surreptitiously recording his meetings or telephone calls added a twist at the end of a week that roiled Washington. The president and his spokesman later refused to say whether he tapes his visitors, something Mr. Trump was suspected of doing when he was in business in New York.

“James Comey better hope that there are no ‘tapes’ of our conversations before he starts leaking to the press!” Mr. Trump wrote on Twitter.

Trump and Spicer chose not to clarify that but later we found out the Comey has politely declined a request to testify before the Senate Intelligence Committee on Tuesday. According to a close associate of Mr. Comey, he is willing to testify, but wants it to be in public.

Wait....what was that Mr. Comey (PRIVATE citizen)???? Did you say you want to testify in public? YOWZAAAA.....hence the first sentence of this post and the article here:

http://www.palmerreport.com/opinion/...y-public/2796/

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Obama was also your president. Did you give him the benefit of the doubt....?
Did you miss the witchhunt from 2008-2016??
Did you miss the cry babies from 2008-16? Did you miss the accusations? the conspiracies? the attacks? the lies?

Here we go with the Tu Quoque Fallacy again


QUOTE=Clara007;1067806]Did you miss the Republican Party who presented themselves as a pack of jackals who decried the "one term president"? Do you deny the hypocrisy now?[/QUOTE]

That is the job of a legitimate opposition party....What is going on here is an organized attack coming from non-elected bureaucrats, the mainstream media,and Hollywood besides the Democrat Party


QUOTE=Clara007;1067806]You didn't elect a president. You elected a fraudulent, reckless miscreant.[/QUOTE]

That is just your opinion....means nothing....so sorry...

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There is no "debacle". Trump can fire Comey, any of the attorney's , they all serve at his pleasure. Get over it you cry babies.
Of course he can, but to do so while being investigated by him makes it look like you're obstructing the investigation into yourself. Which it is.
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Yes Bucko.....Like it or not,He is my President and I will give him the benefit of the doubt, until there is irrefutable proof he did something wrong and this is not just a political witch-hunt conducted by a bunch of sore-loser crybabys on the left... At this point the left-wing media and the Democrat Party have presented themselves as a pack of complete jackals who are out to harm this country..
And wasn't Obama you're president? That crap you just spewed is sad if you think anyone actually believes it. And it's pretty disgusting of any American to side with Russia over other Americans. Hating people on the other side of politics and giving Russia a pass is truly the action of a kindred spirit of Putin. And proves that you in reality are nothing more than a sad man who hates women and those who make him feel less of a man with their concern for other human beings and desire for what's good for all Americans, not just the ones who look and think like you. Pathetic. Stop blaming other people for your own failures.
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And wasn't Obama you're president? That crap you just spewed is sad if you think anyone actually believes it. And it's pretty disgusting of any American to side with Russia over other Americans. Hating people on the other side of politics and giving Russia a pass is truly the action of a kindred spirit of Putin. And proves that you in reality are nothing more than a sad man who hates women and those who make him feel less of a man with their concern for other human beings and desire for what's good for all Americans, not just the ones who look and think like you. Pathetic. Stop blaming other people for your own failures.
Good to see you back. We need you.
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Of course he can, but to do so while being investigated by him makes it look like you're obstructing the investigation into yourself. Which it is.
Trump is under investigation by the FBI?
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