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Old May 28th, 2017, 09:47 PM   #1
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Does Vladimir Putin really own Donald Trump? It’s more likely than you think

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Does Vladimir Putin really own Donald Trump? It’s more likely than you think
Kompromat is the name of the Russian game — and to win the White House, Trump may have unwittingly been played


Imagine the moment when Vladimir Putin first learned that his Russian hackers had struck gold by obtaining the emails of John Podesta, the chairman of Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign.

Shots of vodka all around, singing, dancing and hurling empty glasses into the fireplace. Then Putin rubs his palms together and begins to scheme: “How best to use this information?”

One obvious ploy would be to secretly approach Donald Trump’s campaign and demand a ransom in exchange for the public release of Podesta’s hacked emails.

Imagine the reaction from Trump: “Absolutely not! I would never compromise my honor and integrity. I would rather lose this election than win in an underhanded manner.”

Ha ha ha! Yeah right.

Trump, of course, would have done anything to have those emails released. “Name your price,” would far more likely have been his response.

The Russians would have instructed Trump that all he needed to do was just take a more friendly position toward Russia. Do not criticize Russia or Putin, and advocate for better relations between the United States and Russia. And once Trump becomes president, he would then need to help lift the sanctions against Russia for invading Crimea.

“That’s it? That’s all I gotta do?” Trump would have exclaimed in delight. “Done!”

The art of the deal.
More: Does Vladimir Putin really own Donald Trump? It?s more likely than you think - Salon.com
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Old May 28th, 2017, 09:53 PM   #2
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That's one possible scenario.

I'm still leaning towards the rich Russian oligarchs, that is Putin and his buddies having bailed Trump out with some big, big bucks so now he has to dance to their tune.
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Ridiculous.
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If Trump has been hanging with the Russians he will develop a Russian accent.

Listen close the next time he speaks.
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Old May 29th, 2017, 12:09 AM   #5
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for this scenario to have happened it would have required putin believing trump was going to win. and NOBODY believed that. if putin had that information he would have more likely approached the clinton campaign and blackmailed them.

i am more inclined to agree with RNG. trump has only been a politician for 5 minutes, but he has been a property developer for decades, and has done deals in russia. there are probably businesses, individuals and possibly government agencies who he owes favors to.
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That's one possible scenario.

I'm still leaning towards the rich Russian oligarchs, that is Putin and his buddies having bailed Trump out with some big, big bucks so now he has to dance to their tune.


You know my motto: FOLLOW THE MONEY......
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You know my motto: FOLLOW THE MONEY......
It's easy to see who really owns Trump.
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for this scenario to have happened it would have required putin believing trump was going to win. and NOBODY believed that. if putin had that information he would have more likely approached the clinton campaign and blackmailed them.

i am more inclined to agree with RNG. trump has only been a politician for 5 minutes, but he has been a property developer for decades, and has done deals in russia. there are probably businesses, individuals and possibly government agencies who he owes favors to.
All that scenario requires is for Putin to believe that helping Trump hurts America, in the case Hillary wins, the smaller her margin of victory, the closer and more contested the election is, the more the result is in doubt, the less her mandate and her ability to govern.
If Trump wins, BINGO, it's like Russia winning Powerball.

Either way, Putin scores a victory against Democracy.
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Ridiculous.
Why exactly?
Because Trump has spend his life displaying his patriotism, sense of self-sacrifice for the common good of the country or what?
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for this scenario to have happened it would have required putin believing trump was going to win. and NOBODY believed that. if putin had that information he would have more likely approached the clinton campaign and blackmailed them.

i am more inclined to agree with RNG. trump has only been a politician for 5 minutes, but he has been a property developer for decades, and has done deals in russia. there are probably businesses, individuals and possibly government agencies who he owes favors to.
I reported what I was seeing before the election on Russian TV, non-stop. This sums it up:

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Putin on Trump: 'Nobody believed he would win except for us'

Russian President Vladimir Putin on Friday claimed that his country correctly predicted Donald Trump’s electoral victory and characterized Democrats as sore losers eager to blame anyone else for their losses.

Speaking at his annual news conference, Putin said he hoped to have a productive relationship with Trump. “Nobody believed he would win except for us,” he said.

Trump has regularly been criticized being too cozy with the Russian leader, while the Obama administration has accused the Russian government of meddling in the U.S. election by hacking Democratic targets. The CIA has gone further, assessing that the Kremlin was explicitly trying to tip the election in Trump’s favor.

On Friday, Putin cast Democrats in the U.S. as desperate. "They are losing on all fronts and looking elsewhere for things to blame. In my view this, how shall I say it, degrades their own dignity,” Putin said. “You have to know how to lose with dignity."

The comments from Putin stand to fuel fears that not only did the Russian leader have a hand in Trump’s rise but that he will try to force autocratic ideals upon the United States.
Putin on Trump: 'Nobody believed he would win except for us' - POLITICO
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