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Old October 3rd, 2017, 06:55 PM   #11
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Hate Trump all you want. Disagree with him all you want.

But claiming he is not 'your' President is a lame childish feet stomping spinach hating moment worthy of a genuine snowflake.

By our country's laws, he was duly elected. All the whines about Russians, hacking, popular vote, etc, is nothing more than denial of reality. Gore won the popular election and conceded to Bush. Hillary won the popular vote and conceded to Trump. You may not agree with our election process, but by refusing to acknowledge and respect the position, you are not being respectful to the country and your countrymen.

There is no issue with not respecting Trump as a person. There is an issue with not respecting the Office of the Presidency. Disagreeing with his policies/actions by voting him out of office is what adults do. Claiming he is not your President just makes one sound like a 5 year old child on a tantrum.

To paraphrase, Trump is an asshole, but he is our asshole. You're stuck with him until pending the results of the next election. To claim Trump is not 'your' President makes one sound delusional and about just as eloquent as the the the guy you're calling a buffoon.
He is a buffoon whether anyone calls him that, or not.

He is the president of the US, and I can acknowledge and respect the position. He was duly elected, probably, but he does not represent my beliefs. I don't support his beliefs.

My having and expressing my opinions of him and the damage he's doing to the office of the president has absolutely nothing to do with not being respectful to the country and my countrymen.

He's not "my" president. If you need further clarification please consult with any member of the tens of millions of rightists who felt the same way about Obimbo.
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Old October 3rd, 2017, 07:48 PM   #12
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How can we have a debate about whether or not Donald Trump is YOUR president if you happen to be one of those that Donald Trump does not accept as one of his own?

Donald Trump is the duly elected president. I do not dispute that. But any politician that does not want to represent me should not be able to claim to be "my" president. I respect the office, but Obama and Trump would not welcome me as a constituent, so why should an individual be compelled to have to say Trump is "their" president?
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Old October 3rd, 2017, 10:48 PM   #13
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How can we have a debate about whether or not Donald Trump is YOUR president if you happen to be one of those that Donald Trump does not accept as one of his own?

Donald Trump is the duly elected president. I do not dispute that. But any politician that does not want to represent me should not be able to claim to be "my" president. I respect the office, but Obama and Trump would not welcome me as a constituent, so why should an individual be compelled to have to say Trump is "their" president?
If they are claiming to be American citizens it is a package deal. I don't like the government in general but I am an American citizen so he is my president. That franken goofball is my congressman.

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Old October 3rd, 2017, 10:50 PM   #14
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He is a buffoon whether anyone calls him that, or not.

He is the president of the US, and I can acknowledge and respect the position. He was duly elected, probably, but he does not represent my beliefs. I don't support his beliefs.

My having and expressing my opinions of him and the damage he's doing to the office of the president has absolutely nothing to do with not being respectful to the country and my countrymen.

He's not "my" president. If you need further clarification please consult with any member of the tens of millions of rightists who felt the same way about Obimbo.
Consulting retards is your answer to avoiding reality?

Unless you wish to remain the fool and pretend to be oblivious to reality, he is 'your' President. If you want to be as stupid and lame as the retards that denied Obama, so be it. You, just like them are retarded because the reality don't change because you don't like it. It is not the Matrix. There is no de ja vous. No restart. It is reality.
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Has President-for-Life Fart banned all other parties as well as sense?
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Old October 4th, 2017, 05:43 AM   #16
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I do not acknowledge that the Orange Asshole is the president. The Russians interfered with the election and I believe the evidence will show that they had help from these treasonous bastards. RESIST !!!!!!
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If they are claiming to be American citizens it is a package deal. I don't like the government in general but I am an American citizen so he is my president. That franken goofball is my congressman.

Eating cake.
I still say he is the president and he is the Commander in Chief so his orders must be obeyed. But with the last couple of presidents, I have to respect the office, but not the men.
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Consulting retards is your answer to avoiding reality?

Unless you wish to remain the fool and pretend to be oblivious to reality, he is 'your' President. If you want to be as stupid and lame as the retards that denied Obama, so be it. You, just like them are retarded because the reality don't change because you don't like it. It is not the Matrix. There is no de ja vous. No restart. It is reality.
You know, before you appeared on the scene here, I never had any problem with being oblivious to reality, and you know what buddy? I'm not having any problem right now.

Donald Trump isn't "my" president. The Chicago Bears aren't "my" NFL team. Chocolate ice cream IS "my" flavor, and pretty clearly, you aren't "my" kind of guy.

If that's too esoteric for ya, you have my pity.

So, do your best to interpret reality for yourself, and live your life the way you want to. I'll do the same.
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Old October 4th, 2017, 08:38 AM   #19
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I still say he is the president and he is the Commander in Chief so his orders must be obeyed. But with the last couple of presidents, I have to respect the office, but not the men.
Nope, you do not have to obey all orders, for instance if you are ordered to jump off a cliff, you do not have to obey an obviously insane order. Basic Training.
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Old October 4th, 2017, 10:11 AM   #20
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Nope, you do not have to obey all orders, for instance if you are ordered to jump off a cliff, you do not have to obey an obviously insane order. Basic Training.
Well, you have to obey all lawful / constitutional orders. I really do respect the office, but Trump is embarrassing the nation with his big mouth and his addiction to his Twitter account. He's still better that Hitlery Clinton, but even that don't say a lot.
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