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Old March 30th, 2018, 03:21 PM   #11
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Are you happy with what her 2016 performance netted us?
As President Obama said, Hillary was the most qualified individual to ever run for president. Unlike her husband, but much like Mitt Romney, Hillary lacks the natural magnetism of connecting through the television screen. add to that a creep that played on the fears and divisions in America, the Right wing media’s 30 year character assasination efforts, Comey’s announcement of a revived email investigation just days prior to the election, Russian interference and her total vote count victory and, yes, she performed as I expected.
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Old March 30th, 2018, 03:29 PM   #12
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As President Obama said, Hillary was the most qualified individual to ever run for president. Unlike her husband, but much like Mitt Romney, Hillary lacks the natural magnetism of connecting through the television screen. add to that a creep that played on the fears and divisions in America, the Right wing media’s 30 year character assasination efforts, Comey’s announcement of a revived email investigation just days prior to the election, Russian interference and her total vote count victory and, yes, she performed as I expected.
The way she handled the email situation was a huge blunder. The Democrat's ignoring of the wage earners, especially since the Republican candidate was connecting with them so well was another blunder.

Hillary and the Democrats really just sat back and said "The Republican candidate will lose" and thought no effort was needed.

Wrong on all accounts.

And yes, she does not come across well on TV.
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Are you happy with what her 2016 performance netted us?


Maybe I'm misreading you but are you suggesting that Trump WON because his opponent was Clinton?

If so....let's play "what if"? What if the Dem nomination had been Bernie? Do you think Bernie would/could have beat Trump?

If not....WHO COULD have beat Trump?
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Old March 30th, 2018, 03:47 PM   #14
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The way she handled the email situation was a huge blunder. The Democrat's ignoring of the wage earners, especially since the Republican candidate was connecting with them so well was another blunder.

Hillary and the Democrats really just sat back and said "The Republican candidate will lose" and thought no effort was needed.

Wrong on all accounts.

And yes, she does not come across well on TV.


Hillary Clinton is a polarizing person--always has been. Most voters either LOVE HER or HATE HER. No one ever says (about Hilly)...."She's okay, I guess" or "I can take her or leave her."

Speaking from a woman's point of view and having conversations with lots of women, Hillary Clinton is a very flawed heroine, and I say that because of her intelligence, experiences and influence. As we know, Clinton has topped the Gallup Polls 21 times as most admired woman.

Now people can poo-poo that all they want, but there's a clear message. She's a force to be reckoned with. Having said all that, she's done. She will still be hired to speak. She will always be "around", doing talk-show circuits, etc.
But Hilly is done.
She and Billy Bob need to retire and enjoy their grandchildren--like the rest of us.
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Old March 30th, 2018, 04:08 PM   #15
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I love that the leftists keep parading hillary around. Keeping her and the anti constitutional leftist agenda front and center is fantastic. The authoritarian left is evil and must be kept as far away from power as possible. These two things are helping greatly w/ that. Thanks guys.
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Old March 30th, 2018, 04:09 PM   #16
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The way she handled the email situation was a huge blunder. The Democrat's ignoring of the wage earners, especially since the Republican candidate was connecting with them so well was another blunder.

Hillary and the Democrats really just sat back and said "The Republican candidate will lose" and thought no effort was needed.

Wrong on all accounts.

And yes, she does not come across well on TV.
Very few candidates have that special gift of connecting through a television screen. Reagan had it, Bill Clinton had it, Barack Obama’s had it. McCain, Kerry, Romney and Hillary don’t. Hillary is more of a policy wonk.

An argument can be made that she was not aggressive in fighting back against the email story. Recent news claims that she wanted to but her campaign aides influenced her to stick to policy. Still, Comey announcing that he was reopening the investigation just days before the election was a variable that she had no control over.

Hillary stuck to policy while the maniac spent his time dividing the country as he spewed bigotry, misogyny, anti-immigrant and anti-gay. The maniac preyed on the fears of america’s weakest citizens. 16 other Republicans failed as well with far fewer uncontrollable variables in their way.

As for reaching out to the average worker, we will just have to agree to disagree on that one. Hillary had position papers on increasing wages, pay equality, increasing educational opportunities including student loan interest relief and every other kitchen table issue. Her opponent convinced enough fools that Big coal was coming back, the he had a healthcare plan that would be better and cheaper, that he was going to negotiate trade deals and win, win, win. Well, he lied and lied. But I guess that was Hillary’s fault as well.
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Hillary Clinton is a polarizing person--always has been. Most voters either LOVE HER or HATE HER. No one ever says (about Hilly)...."She's okay, I guess" or "I can take her or leave her."

Speaking from a woman's point of view and having conversations with lots of women, Hillary Clinton is a very flawed heroine, and I say that because of her intelligence, experiences and influence. As we know, Clinton has topped the Gallup Polls 21 times as most admired woman.

Now people can poo-poo that all they want, but there's a clear message. She's a force to be reckoned with. Having said all that, she's done. She will still be hired to speak. She will always be "around", doing talk-show circuits, etc.
But Hilly is done.
She and Billy Bob need to retire and enjoy their grandchildren--like the rest of us.
Hillary Clinton IS NOT a polarizing person. The Republican machine funded by billionaires and millionaires have spent 3 decades demonizing the woman. They created the polarization.
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Old March 30th, 2018, 04:12 PM   #18
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I love that the leftists keep parading hillary around. Keeping her and the anti constitutional leftist agenda front and center is fantastic. The authoritarian left is evil and must be kept as far away from power as possible. These two things are helping greatly w/ that. Thanks guys.
IT started the thread topic. Are we not supposed to comment ? Geez, have you turned into an all out troll.
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Hillary Clinton is a polarizing person--always has been. Most voters either LOVE HER or HATE HER. No one ever says (about Hilly)...."She's okay, I guess" or "I can take her or leave her."

Speaking from a woman's point of view and having conversations with lots of women, Hillary Clinton is a very flawed heroine, and I say that because of her intelligence, experiences and influence. As we know, Clinton has topped the Gallup Polls 21 times as most admired woman.

Now people can poo-poo that all they want, but there's a clear message. She's a force to be reckoned with. Having said all that, she's done. She will still be hired to speak. She will always be "around", doing talk-show circuits, etc.
But Hilly is done.
She and Billy Bob need to retire and enjoy their grandchildren--like the rest of us.
You say she is done but its clear Hillary does not think she is done. She created the political action group. Politicians do that because they intend to run.
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Maybe I'm misreading you but are you suggesting that Trump WON because his opponent was Clinton?

If so....let's play "what if"? What if the Dem nomination had been Bernie? Do you think Bernie would/could have beat Trump?

If not....WHO COULD have beat Trump?
Well, she did get like 3 million more votes than he did, so yeah i guess that works. losing the electoral college not so much, but that has only happened 3 times in our history, with one being the Supreme Court giving W Flroida. So yeah, i would say she did what any other winning presidential candidate did but two. not bad.
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