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Old May 13th, 2018, 04:50 AM   #21
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Too bad for you, though I'm not surprised in the least.
No, I am sorry for you, You have been comsumed with hate.

at least I had balls enough to Give Obama credit where it was due... You are blinded by TDS.. you hate Trump you cannot admit his successes, because if you do you have to admit you are hate filled..

You said I had ODS.. I never did I praised Obama

I praised him when he extended the Bush Tax Cuts.
When he Privitized 1/6 of Social Security for 2 years

I praised him when he took the Fight to the Taliban with the Surge

I praised him when he Proposed then signed the Sequestor

I cheered when OBL became room Temp

I feel so very sorry for you that all you can to is see hate.

I NEVER opposed Obama I opposed most of his Agenda.. But I never ever opposed him, nor carried the hate that I see in you, and I will include RNG, Lyssa and Clara.

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Old May 13th, 2018, 05:07 AM   #22
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My parents taught me to look at people's accomplishments not hate them for who they are.

Obama worst Economy since the Great Depression

Trump Brought back real economic Growth

Obama extended a Recession by 7 years

Trump Brought back excellent economic Growth

Obama created a 28/hour work week and sold it as the new normal

Trump Brought back the 40 hour work week

Obama expanded the Welfare Roles (because of the 28 hour work week normality)

Trump has caused the welfare rolls to decline because part time jobs were upsized to full time.
The economy crashed just before Obama took office and you are blaming the bad economy on him. Do you want to explain how that bad economy was Obama's fault? For years there were no jobs. A part-time job was the best many people could get. That was not Obama's fault and things could have been a lot worse as they were during Great Depression that occurred before Franklin Roosevelt took office.
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Old May 13th, 2018, 05:14 AM   #23
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The economy crashed just before Obama took office and you are blaming the bad economy on him. Do you want to explain how that bad economy was Obama's fault? For years there were no jobs. A part-time job was the best many people could get. That was not Obama's fault and things could have been a lot worse as they were during Great Depression that occurred before Franklin Roosevelt took office.
Yes it did.. I never said that, I SAID OBAMA'S HANDLING OF THE RECOVERY IS THE REASON IT WAS THE WORST RECOVERY FROM A RECESSION IN HISTORY..

If the Fed had not been pumping 89 billion dollars a month into the market from 2009-2016 the markets would never have broken 15,000

The fed is raising interest rates the last 9 months because they are trying to SLOW the economy.. they at fearful it is growing too fast.
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Old May 13th, 2018, 05:26 AM   #24
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No, I am sorry for you, You have been comsumed with hate.

at least I had balls enough to Give Obama credit where it was due... You are blinded by TDS.. you hate Trump you cannot admit his successes, because if you do you have to admit you are hate filled..

You said I had ODS.. I never did I praised Obama

I praised him when he extended the Bush Tax Cuts.
When he Privitized 1/6 of Social Security for 2 years

I praised him when he took the Fight to the Taliban with the Surge

I praised him when he Proposed then signed the Sequestor

I cheered when OBL became room Temp

I feel so very sorry for you that all you can to is see hate.

I NEVER opposed Obama I opposed most of his Agenda.. But I never ever opposed him, nor carried the hate that I see in you, and I will include RNG, Lyssa and Clara.
But Obama never was offensive and Trump is. On the other hand from the first time I saw Bill Clinton I judged him to be a less than honest person and not someone to trust. It is character judgments. Obama had good character and I don't think Cheney, Bill Clinton or Trump have good character.

Trump's negotiations with the leader of Saudi Arabia have me very nervous. Did you know the US has the most weapons, China comes next and then Saudi Arabia? Saudi Arabia, the third most armed nation in the world, and once again we are treating Iran like our enemy. Iran? The fellows who flew planes into the World Trade Center and Pentagon were from Saudi Arabia, not Iran. Why is Trump so cozy with the leader of Saudi Arabia? I think that is like being cozy with Hitler.
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Old May 13th, 2018, 05:35 AM   #25
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No, I am sorry for you, You have been comsumed with hate.

at least I had balls enough to Give Obama credit where it was due... You are blinded by TDS.. you hate Trump you cannot admit his successes, because if you do you have to admit you are hate filled..

You said I had ODS.. I never did I praised Obama

I praised him when he extended the Bush Tax Cuts.
When he Privitized 1/6 of Social Security for 2 years

I praised him when he took the Fight to the Taliban with the Surge

I praised him when he Proposed then signed the Sequestor

I cheered when OBL became room Temp

I feel so very sorry for you that all you can to is see hate.

I NEVER opposed Obama I opposed most of his Agenda.. But I never ever opposed him, nor carried the hate that I see in you, and I will include RNG, Lyssa and Clara.
Save your pity for yourself. You've insulated yourself from legitimate criticism by calling it all hate, your TDS defense.

You and others like you can support Trump when support is due, and criticize him when criticism is warranted, but you don't. You round up all those who legitimately criticize Trump as haters suffering from TDS, and is so doing you relinquish your honor as a child of God.

You've chosen the course defined by the love of money over all. You don't see it. I hope you do one day.
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Old May 13th, 2018, 05:37 AM   #26
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Yes it did.. I never said that, I SAID OBAMA'S HANDLING OF THE RECOVERY IS THE REASON IT WAS THE WORST RECOVERY FROM A RECESSION IN HISTORY..

If the Fed had not been pumping 89 billion dollars a month into the market from 2009-2016 the markets would never have broken 15,000

The fed is raising interest rates the last 9 months because they are trying to SLOW the economy.. they at fearful it is growing too fast.
Knock, knock, that money didn't disappear, and in fact Trump has doubled down on "stimulating" the economy through deficit spending.

It's beginning to smell a lot like 2007.
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Old May 13th, 2018, 05:41 AM   #27
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Yes it did.. I never said that, I SAID OBAMA'S HANDLING OF THE RECOVERY IS THE REASON IT WAS THE WORST RECOVERY FROM A RECESSION IN HISTORY..

If the Fed had not been pumping 89 billion dollars a month into the market from 2009-2016 the markets would never have broken 15,000

The fed is raising interest rates the last 9 months because they are trying to SLOW the economy.. they at fearful it is growing too fast.
If you understood the economy you would know it was Greenspan's bad judgment that got us into the economic crash and Bush replaced him Ben S. Bernanke. Ben S. Bernanke was chosen by Bush because he had studied how the economy was turned around during the Great Depression. Neither Bush nor Obama called the shots as they both relied on Bernanke's learned judgment. Bernanke followed what was done during the Franklin Roosevelt's years. In the Roosevelt years, those who feared the federal spending was wrong were wrong, as the war greatly increased the spending and things got even better. Now to keep that spending going, Trump has increased the military budget when we are not at war and we are the most armed nation in the world. That is Hitler's method of having a good economy. I think I rather have a good economy because of domestic spending, not because of military spending.
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My parents taught me to look at people's accomplishments not hate them for who they are.

Obama worst Economy since the Great Depression

Trump Brought back real economic Growth

Obama extended a Recession by 7 years

Trump Brought back excellent economic Growth

Obama created a 28/hour work week and sold it as the new normal

Trump Brought back the 40 hour work week

Obama expanded the Welfare Roles (because of the 28 hour work week normality)

Trump has caused the welfare rolls to decline because part time jobs were upsized to full time.
So your parents taught you to lie?
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Old May 13th, 2018, 06:35 AM   #29
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Yes it did.. I never said that, I SAID OBAMA'S HANDLING OF THE RECOVERY IS THE REASON IT WAS THE WORST RECOVERY FROM A RECESSION IN HISTORY..

If the Fed had not been pumping 89 billion dollars a month into the market from 2009-2016 the markets would never have broken 15,000

The fed is raising interest rates the last 9 months because they are trying to SLOW the economy.. they at fearful it is growing too fast.

Okay, let us try this again. The important economic decisions are made by the Federal Reserve Chairman. Those decisions are not the expertise of presidents. Bush made Ben S. Bernanke the Federal Reserve Chairman because Ben S. Bernanke had studied the economic recovery following the Great Depression. This economic recovery is the result of domestic federal spending. Trump now enjoys a good economy and that would not be the case if our economy was not recovered during the Obama years.

TRUMP HAS SHIFTED DOMESTIC SPENDING TO MILITARY SPENDING TO KEEP THE ECONOMY STRONG AS HITLER MADE THE ECONOMY OF GERMANY STRONG. DO YOU UNDERSTAND, THE DIFFERENCE OF OPINION IS NOT ABOUT GOVERNMENT SPENDING THAT INCREASES OUR NATIONAL DEBT, BUT WHAT THE GOVERNMENT IS SPENDING THAT MONEY ON?
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Old May 13th, 2018, 06:41 AM   #30
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I think Michael Bloomberg nails what this thread is all about;

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Michael Bloomberg calls 'epidemic of dishonesty' bigger threat than terrorism
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Ex-New York mayor: democracy at risk from ‘endless barrage of lies’
Bloomberg does not name Trump in Houston university speech

Sat 12 May 2018 12.42 EDT

Americans are facing an “epidemic of dishonesty” in Washington that is more dangerous than terrorism or communism, according to former New York City mayor Michael Bloomberg.


In a commencement speech on Saturday at Rice University in Houston, the billionaire said “an endless barrage of lies” and a trend toward “alternate realities” in national politics pose a dire threat to US democracy.

The 76-year-old, who flirted with an independent presidential run in 2016, did not call out any politicians by name. Although he derided Donald Trump as “a con” and a “dangerous demagogue” before his election, in an interview before the speech at Rice Bloomberg refused to comment specifically on the president. Fact checkers have determined that Trump has made hundreds of false and misleading statements since entering the Oval Office.


“This is bigger than any one person,” Bloomberg said. “It’s bigger than any one party.”


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When elected officials speak as though they are above the truth, they will act as though they are above the law,” Bloomberg told graduates. “And when we tolerate dishonesty, we get criminality. Sometimes, it’s in the form of corruption. Sometimes, it’s abuse of power. And sometimes, it’s both.

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Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...reat-democracy

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