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Old November 18th, 2011, 09:13 AM   #1
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Definition for progressivism:

Web definitions: the political orientation of those who favor progress toward better conditions in government and society.

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I don't understand what this actually means. I don't think that the term is exclusive to any certian affiliation, is that true? Don't we all want better conditions?
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Old November 18th, 2011, 12:29 PM   #2
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Wiki says this:



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Progressivism is an umbrella term for a political ideology advocating or favoring social, political, and economic reform or changes. Progressivism is often viewed by some conservatives,constitutionalists, and libertarians to be in opposition to conservative or reactionary ideologies.



The Progressive Movement began in the late 19th and early 20th centuries in cities with settlement workers and reformers who were interested in helping those facing harsh conditions at home and at work. The reformers spoke out about the need for laws regulating tenement housing and child labor. They also called for better working conditions for women.



The term progressivism emerged in reference to a more general response to the vast changes brought by industrialization: an alternative to the traditional conservative response to social and economic issues and, despite being associated with left-wing politics, to the various more radical streams of communism or anarchism.



Political parties, such as the Progressive Party, organized at the start of the 20th century, and progressivism made great strides under American presidents Theodore Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson,Franklin Delano Roosevelt, and Lyndon Baines Johnson.[sup][1][/sup] Moreover, in the United States and Canada, the term "progressive" has occasionally been used by groups not particularly left-wing. TheProgressive Democrats in the Republic of Ireland took the name "progressivism" despite being considered centre-right or classical liberal. The European Progressive Democrats was a mainly heterogeneous political group in the European Union. For most of the period from 19422003, the largest conservative party in Canada was the Progressive Conservative Party.


Today, progressives favor higher taxation on the rich, protective tariffs, spending our way out of the recession, relative ease with high federal deficits, curbing corporate influence, the healthcare act ... I'm sure DTT progressives can add to this list.
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Thank you for the insight.
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Old November 18th, 2011, 02:48 PM   #4
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Nah, a lot of conservatives don't like social progress all that much.
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Old November 18th, 2011, 03:41 PM   #5
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Thanks, Fayt. I am just beginning to understand that my knowledge of political termanology is truly lacking. I try to keep up and find that I get lost trying to define the terms as used in articles. I have found that more often than not, the actual term- as defined in a dictionary- is not the term the author intended.



I really am trying to put an identifying name to what I am. I really try to vote by way of their platform and what they say and do (or have said and done).



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Thanks, Fayt. I am just beginning to understand that my knowledge of political termanology is truly lacking. I try to keep up and find that I get lost trying to define the terms as used in articles. I have found that more often than not, the actual term- as defined in a dictionary- is not the term the author intended.



I really am trying to put an identifying name to what I am. I really try to vote by way of their platform and what they say and do (or have said and done).



Side note: I love your hair color and cut.


Fayt has trouble, as do a lot of people, distinguishing between conservatism, the nearest analog to the classical liberalism of our Founders' day, and neoconservatism. All of the GOP candidates trumpeting their conservatism - Perry, Bachman, Santorum, Cain, Gingrich, and even Romney - are bona fide neoconservatives.



Here's a really good, concise primer on neoconservatism: http://www.weeklystandard.com/Conten...3/000tzmlw.asp
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Here's a really good, concise primer on neoconservatism: http://www.weeklysta...03/000tzmlw.asp


I appreciated the link, however I need something a little more elementary.
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Here's a really good, concise primer on neoconservatism: http://www.weeklysta...03/000tzmlw.asp


I appreciated the link, however I need something a little more elementary.


OK.



This is about as simple as it can be, and it connects the neoconservative persuasion with recent events.



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A neoconservative (also spelled "neo-conservative"; colloquially, neocon) in American politics is someone presented as a conservative but who actually favors big government, interventionalism, and a hostility to religion in politics and government. The word means "newly conservative," and thus formerly liberal. Many neocons had been liberals in their youth and admired President Franklin D. Roosevelt. In 2010 the highest priority of the neoconservatives is to increase military action by the United States in the Middle East and Afghanistan, and to expand it to an American confrontation against Iran; in 2011 their goals include supporting a military attack onLibya, continuing the Afghanistan War indefinitely, and even suggesting military action against Syria.



Neoconservatives tend to oppose the appointment of social conservatives to high governmental positions, such as nomination to the U.S. Supreme Court. Neoconservatives support candidates who are liberal on social issues instead.



The defining position of a neoconservative is advocacy of an American foreign policy that seeks to install democracy in other nations. That reflects both their emphasis on foreign policy and their downplaying the significance of the differences in cultures and religion around the globe. The neoconservative position was discredited in the failure of democracy in the Iranian elections of 2009.



The neoconservative movement emerged in the mid 1970s, played a limited role in the Ronald Reagan Administration, and then had a voice in the Defense Department under the George W. Bush Administration after 9/11. Candidates favored by neoconservatives for president in 2012 include Newt Gingrich, Mike Huckabee, Mike Pence and, to a lesser extent because she pulls support away those candidates, Sarah Palin.

Some prominent spokesmen include Bill Kristol, Paul Wolfowitz, Lewis Libby, Norman Podhoretz, Daniel Pipes, Charles Krauthammer, Richard Perle, Robert Kagan, Christopher Hitchens, Stephen Schwartz, Elliott Abrams, Ben Wattenberg and Carl Gershman.



In contrast to traditional conservatives, neoconservatives favor globalism, downplay religious issues and differences, are unlikely to actively oppose abortion and homosexuality. Neocons disagree with conservatives on issues such as classroom prayer, the separation of powers, cultural unity, and immigration. Neocons favor a strong active state in world affairs. Neocons oppose affirmative action with greater emphasis and priority than other conservatives do.



On foreign policy, neoconservatives believe that democracy can and should be installed by the United States around the world, even in Muslim countries such as Iraq, Iran, and Saudi Arabia.



Neoconservatives were prominent in the George W. Bush administration by supporting a strong foreign policy, and especially favored the Iraq War and its efforts to spread democracy worldwide.


http://conservapedia...Neoconservatism



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Old November 18th, 2011, 08:43 PM   #9
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Thanks, I appreciate it. This is a whole different perspective then what I thought it meant. I did check wiki and search a little. The site came up that you listed but my WOT came up yellow so I did not click it. Again, thanks.
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Thanks, I appreciate it. This is a whole different perspective then what I thought it meant. I did check wiki and search a little. The site came up that you listed but my WOT came up yellow so I did not click it. Again, thanks.


Sure.



What would you say if I said progressivism is a form of neoconservatism?
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