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Old December 11th, 2016, 04:01 AM   #31
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That you alone approve of? Such a narrow thought aligns itself with retardation.
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Old December 11th, 2016, 08:11 AM   #32
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I wish I would get called for jury duty. I am a strong believer it is one of the last places the citizen can voice their displeasure in the state and it must be heard. Jury nullification is a beautiful thing.
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Old December 11th, 2016, 09:15 AM   #33
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It's not preposterous. These propagandists are a tool of the evil that must be destroyed. Even if they tell truth, it is only because the truth is profitable. In the rare instances they tell the truth it is because they are enslaved by the god of ratings and of backroom deals, of money and power. Some days Fox is right, some days it's wrong. Same goes for CNN. Why? Because the truth is irrelevant. Put before them a mundane truth and a lie that shoots the ratings through the roof and they will pick the latter every time.

Journalism is a dead career path. Even if you have good intentions you are ultimately a drone in the media machine. Eat your TV dinner and remember, we're fair and balanced. Ignore the fact that any institution truly fair and balanced wouldn't need to spend millions of dollars on a PR campaign to convince you of that. Their everyday actions would speak that motto for itself. It is only BECAUSE people no longer believe the lies of the lugenpresse that they clamor all the more about fake news and truth, when never once have they ever cared about that before. Generations of brainwashed fools no longer.
Yes, yes, that's the meme of the New Revolutionaries. Any examples backed up by more than Beasty's pontificating?

When in the glory of the good ol' days wasn't media biased? And how did you determine that the "lugenpresse" ever once has cared about accuracy in journalism? What gives you any right to blanket condemn journalists? Your elitist condemnation clearly fits the propaganda you spew.

How do you determine what's the truth so that you have a platform to declare what's true and what isn't? Iow, where do you get your "truth?"

For clarity, I completely oppose any government actions to "clean up" the news.
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Old December 11th, 2016, 10:45 AM   #34
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The MSM, the "reputables" at work.

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In 2012, journalists plotted together to make Mitt Romney the target of Benghazi coverage, rather than Obama or Secretary of State Hillary Clinton — and CNN’s Candy Crowley infamously threw the second presidential debate to Obama.

They played along with spurious attacks on Romney’s record, such as his supposed responsibility for the death of a worker’s wife and the alleged mysteries in his tax returns. (Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid later admitted his charges about Romney’s tax returns were lies.)

It does not matter how moderate, politically correct, or docile the Republican candidate is. Journalists will demonize him (or, as in Sarah Palin’s case, her.)

Gutenberg acknowledges that Hillary Clinton deserves more scrutiny than she has received thus far in this election, especially as she avoids press conferences. But, he says, “the candidates do not produce news at the same rate.”

Is it the candidates’ role to produce the news? Who decides what is newsworthy?

Are Trump’s jokes at press conferences and rallies really “news”?
New York Times Blames Donald Trump for Biased Media Coverage



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Yes, yes, that's the meme of the New Revolutionaries. Any examples backed up by more than Beasty's pontificating?

When in the glory of the good ol' days wasn't media biased? And how did you determine that the "lugenpresse" ever once has cared about accuracy in journalism? What gives you any right to blanket condemn journalists? Your elitist condemnation clearly fits the propaganda you spew.

How do you determine what's the truth so that you have a platform to declare what's true and what isn't? Iow, where do you get your "truth?"

For clarity, I completely oppose any government actions to "clean up" the news.
I don't know why you've presupposed that I am after "the good ol' days". They never existed. They world was as cruel then as it was now. The only reason it seems worse today is the death of innocence. It is only because the sun has risen and the people have woken up, irregardless of their desire to lay their head down and sleep once more, that the world so cruelly laughs in spite of our yearnings.

My condemnations are the righteous condemnations of a society bent on the presupposition that man is smarter with eyes wide shut. I reject that. The rose colored glasses you once saw life through was ill gotten, but the happiness, the fulfillment you knew in your ignorance, that feeling is real. And I intend to make it genuine. It is because I am so self assured that I can sit here and pontificate. And I'm not going to let a fearful press, or the men who control it, or a moderate fence sitter such as yourself deter me from that ideal. If even its origin was built on a false notion, I will continue towards making it a reality. I am no coward, and I will not accept less than we are capable of. If you've been convinced that anything should be out of your hands, that's on you. But I won't be. Not by the zeitgeist, and not by God himself. Call me Satan then, if you will. I need not your pity nor your acceptance. Only your better days that will lie ahead.
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Old December 11th, 2016, 01:20 PM   #36
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In the words of excalibur, "Look! A squirrel!!"

"Knife fight" is a metaphor. Is using it a violation of right-wing political correctness? The inner discord is well known. Ms. Conway took it public, very public.

Would it have been more "reputable" for the media to have ignored her? Is that what you're saying?

Is that what you're saying?
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Old December 11th, 2016, 01:29 PM   #37
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I don't know why you've presupposed that I am after "the good ol' days". They never existed. They world was as cruel then as it was now. The only reason it seems worse today is the death of innocence. It is only because the sun has risen and the people have woken up, irregardless of their desire to lay their head down and sleep once more, that the world so cruelly laughs in spite of our yearnings.

My condemnations are the righteous condemnations of a society bent on the presupposition that man is smarter with eyes wide shut. I reject that. The rose colored glasses you once saw life through was ill gotten, but the happiness, the fulfillment you knew in your ignorance, that feeling is real. And I intend to make it genuine. It is because I am so self assured that I can sit here and pontificate. And I'm not going to let a fearful press, or the men who control it, or a moderate fence sitter such as yourself deter me from that ideal. If even its origin was built on a false notion, I will continue towards making it a reality. I am no coward, and I will not accept less than we are capable of. If you've been convinced that anything should be out of your hands, that's on you. But I won't be. Not by the zeitgeist, and not by God himself. Call me Satan then, if you will. I need not your pity nor your acceptance. Only your better days that will lie ahead.
I mostly agree with your first paragraph.

You know who you serve, and so do I.

The remainder of your post provides an example of "New Revolutionary," elitist, political correctness. It's becoming more and more clear. You guys should have waited a little while before revealing your tactic, which is elementary but that doesn't mean you and yours won't fool tons of people.

Meet the new boss; same as the old boss.
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I mostly agree with your first paragraph.

You know who you serve, and so do I.

The remainder of your post provides an example of "New Revolutionary," elitist, political correctness. It's becoming more and more clear. You guys should have waited a little while before revealing your tactic, which is elementary but that doesn't mean you and yours won't fool tons of people.

Meet the new boss; same as the old boss.
And how exactly am I the same as the old guard, hmm?

Tell me that. Don't you fucking insult me like that and not elaborate.
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Old December 11th, 2016, 02:42 PM   #39
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And how exactly am I the same as the old guard, hmm?

Tell me that. Don't you fucking insult me like that and not elaborate.
I didn't "fucking" insult you, whatever that's supposed to mean anyway.

I already told you. Your post provides an example of "New Revolutionary," elitist, political correctness. It's just a different form of the PC that you and yours rail against. You, up until now, haven't had that pointed out to you. Now you have.
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Old December 11th, 2016, 02:52 PM   #40
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Under a Trump administration the old guard network media will resume their old and proper role of an adversarial relationship with the government. This illusion of an objective media fulfilling its real function will last only as long as what they concieve as a conservative hold the office of president.

The media should always have an advarial role.
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