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Old May 10th, 2017, 01:34 PM   #1
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What is "fair pay"?

I see this phrase tossed around often by our leftist friends but what does it really mean?

What IS "fair pay"?
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I see this phrase tossed around often by our leftist friends but what does it really mean?

What IS "fair pay"?
I think it means that a democratic decision process by the people to establish the rate of pay that the business you work for pays you. They call it Democratic Socialism because referring to it as stealing property does not sound good.
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I think it means that a democratic decision process by the people to establish the rate of pay that the business you work for pays you. They call it Democratic Socialism because referring to it as stealing property does not sound good.
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These days, the American dream is more apt to be realized in South America, in places such as Ecuador, Venezuela and Argentina, where incomes are actually more equal today than they are in the land of Horatio Alger. Who's the banana republic now?

https://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsr...reaten-america

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I see this phrase tossed around often by our leftist friends but what does it really mean?

What IS "fair pay"?
Our leftist friends equate fair pay with living wage. Flipping burgers is not a living wage.
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For me it is bringing a asset to your Employers table then negotiating a salary that both parties agree to.

If I find my value is underrated by my employer I seek a new employer and I have.

Fair pay and choice.
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For me it is bringing a asset to your Employers table then negotiating a salary that both parties agree to.

If I find my value is underrated by my employer I seek a new employer and I have.

Fair pay and choice.
So how many times have your shift manager at Arby's told you to go fuck off?

All kidding aside, if you have anything to bring to the table or is actually capable or in any position to negotiate a salary, you are not flipping burgers. Your example does not apply to people that actually are working shit jobs.
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For me it is bringing a asset to your Employers table then negotiating a salary that both parties agree to.

If I find my value is underrated by my employer I seek a new employer and I have.

Fair pay and choice.
I never asked for a raise because raises were thrust upon me. The key word is talent which is not found in college textbooks but inside yourself. In so many words, sign your name to your work and/or take possession.
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So how many times have your shift manager at Arby's told you to go fuck off?

All kidding aside, if you have anything to bring to the table or is actually capable or in any position to negotiate a salary, you are not flipping burgers. Your example does not apply to people that actually are working shit jobs.
His example does apply to people working shit jobs. They work shit jobs because they ain't got shit to bring to the table, which is mostly their own fault. When I was very young and had nothing to bring to the table, I worked the most difficult grueling jobs which paid more than flipping burgers until such time as I did have something to bring to the table. It wasn't fun and it wasn't easy.
But I had no stupid expectations of it being fun or easy and neither should anyone else.
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Fair pay is, initially, all the profits made by a company shared out equally by those who do the work and excluding managers. Later it will be 'to each according to his/her need'.
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