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Old July 31st, 2017, 09:49 AM   #61
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Yup. And her mother became a great-grandmother at 54.
I became a grandpa for the first time at age 55.
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Old July 31st, 2017, 10:25 AM   #62
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Having read your remarks on the PP thread, and this one, I must say that having learned that engaging your type in conversation is not only a waste of time and energy, but also of intellect.

Therefore, allow me to put this on a level base enough for you to understand!

Go screw yourself.
Seriously why was your sister pleasuring herself, was there abuse, because at 6 she should have no idea about any of that, was she abused,were you? It sounds like you, and your sister have an unhealthy idea about what sex is. Where does that come from?
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You also have to recognize the fact that having two parents at home doesn't assure a child a stable environment.

Personally, I think my siblings and myself would have been better off if our parents had divorced.

My older sister was discovered to be earning booze and drug money 'on her back' so to speak at 15. She's been married five times.

My brothers girlfriend was six months pregnant when they got married. They're now divorced.

I'm the 'weirdo' in the family. Married 39 years to the same man, two children, and we had been married for four years before the first one was born.

Of course there is no perfect formula. We are all different, our different experiences add to our unique exsistance. That is what makes the beauty. Though children raised by single parents are at a significant disadvantage. It is something like 70% of incarcerated males have that in common. It is the most common thread, over race or any other thing besides age.
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Of course there is no perfect formula. We are all different, our different experiences add to our unique exsistance. That is what makes the beauty. Though children raised by single parents are at a significant disadvantage. It is something like 70% of incarcerated males have that in common. It is the most common thread, over race or any other thing besides age.
Since it was never an issue for me, I've never done any research on the matter.

I'll take your word for it though.

The logical question is.........How do you fix that?

My first thought is making sure that teenage girls and young women don't get pregnant before they are emotionally ready. Educating them regarding sex and birth control is of major importance in attaining that goal.

Assuming, of course, that the teenage girl isn't deliberately trying to get pregnant.
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Since it was never an issue for me, I've never done any research on the matter.

I'll take your word for it though.

The logical question is.........How do you fix that?

My first thought is making sure that teenage girls and young women don't get pregnant before they are emotionally ready. Educating them regarding sex and birth control is of major importance in attaining that goal.

Assuming, of course, that the teenage girl isn't deliberately trying to get pregnant.



There is lots of information on it. The prison thing is what really opened my eyes also there is defiantly some truth to the "daddy issues".

Here is a quick article I found if you are interested.


http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...8rvqtdi-Jym0jQ




Yes, education is key. You cannot force children into a loving family but we as a society can stop rewarding behavior that has negative effects on our society. The single mother epidemic has become generational. Some of our citizens living on the dole have been taught that another child is how you get a raise and the state will dress, feed and for the most part take care of it. Many of these children grow up feeling unloved and act accordingly. Children mimic what they are shown. If grandma earned her living walking to the mailbox and mother also made her money that way the odds are that the child will follow suit.
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There is lots of information on it. The prison thing is what really opened my eyes also there is defiantly some truth to the "daddy issues".

Here is a quick article I found if you are interested.


http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...8rvqtdi-Jym0jQ

I agree wholeheartedly that two parents can keep an eye of children better. BUT.....what if one parent, such as my father, refuses to 'help out'? My father was the "I earn the money, I don't do anything else" type and the only interaction my siblings and I had with him was when we did something to make him angry. My mother, being pretty much exhausted most of the time, frequently took the 'easy' way out. It's the main reason my sister is a complete and total mess today.



Yes, education is key. You cannot force children into a loving family but we as a society can stop rewarding behavior that has negative effects on our society. The single mother epidemic has become generational. Some of our citizens living on the dole have been taught that another child is how you get a raise and the state will dress, feed and for the most part take care of it. Many of these children grow up feeling unloved and act accordingly. Children mimic what they are shown. If grandma earned her living walking to the mailbox and mother also made her money that way the odds are that the child will follow suit.
So how do you put a stop to it? Without harming the children?

Personally, I would like to see certain programs changed. Food assistance for instance. You should be limited as to what you can purchase with EBT. Things such as soda and junk food should not be allowed.

I would like to see government assisted housing changed also. Perhaps if we went back to the idea of apartment type complexes instead of assisting with renting a house in the suburbs, people would be more eager to get off government assistance.

However, in order to get off government assistance more affordable education will have to be available.



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One nit-picky thing. Much of the earlier onset of puperty is due to better nutrition for pregnant women and for infants and children....
Maybe not.
Early Puberty: Causes and Effects
Increases in obesity appear to be the major culprit, but family stress and exposure to chemicals may also play a role


For the past two decades scientists have been trying to unravel a mystery in young girls. Breast development, typical of 11-year-olds a generation ago, is now occurring in more seven-year-olds and, rarely, even in three-year-olds... More and more families are finding themselves in the strange position of juggling stuffed animals and puberty talks with their first and second graders.

Obesity appears to be the major factor sending girls into these unchartered waters. The rate of obesity has more than doubled in children over the past 30 years.... As for boys, the data are murkier, but one 2012 study did suggest that they, too, may be starting puberty earlier than before—perhaps by as much as six months to two years.

[M]any experts now believe parents should focus on the psychosocial consequences of early puberty rather than the potential physical risks. Frank M. Biro of Cincinnati Children's Hospital Medical Center has spent his career studying puberty. He is also the father of three children. In his estimation, one of the biggest issues with early puberty is social well-being. “We interact with girls as they appear,” Biro says. “People relate to an early-maturing girl as if she is older than she is, but there is really no correlation between age of onset of puberty and one's social or emotional maturation.” The result can be incredibly confusing for girls—who may face sexual innuendo or teasing long before they (or their parents) are ready for it.

Although researchers agree that obesity plays the central role in the earlier development of puberty, there is evidence implicating other factors as well....

What might that something else include? Researchers have long suspected that exposure to certain compounds known as endocrine disruptors might have a part in triggering early puberty. These substances, among them pesticides, polychlorinated biphenyls and bisphenol A, mimic the effects of estrogen in the body
More: https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...s-and-effects/
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Old July 31st, 2017, 01:16 PM   #68
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We're not going to 'wake up and stop' it. You can either adapt to modern society and protect your children, or you can keep them ignorant and risk pregnancy and std's.

BTW....no child has to be TAUGHT how to masturbate. They figure that out all on their own.

All the parents in that video were doing was having an honest conversation regarding a delicate subject instead of pretending their kids didn't know anything about masturbation.

As to 'why' young teenagers are having sex....there are many reasons. Peer pressure. Fear of losing a boyfriend. They want to.

If your children feel comfortable coming to you with these issues, you just might be able to prevent becoming a grandparent in your 30's.
Please explain the benefit(s) of being taught how the opposite sex masturbates.
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Please explain the benefit(s) of being taught how the opposite sex masturbates.
For one thing, it keeps kids from trying to 'sneak a peek' at their brother or sister.

Personally, I don't think that children need the details of how the opposite sex masturbates. If they are curious as to whether or not they do, then the parents should just honestly answer...'yes, they do'.
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Yeah, there is a great article on how to game the system as a family. Basicly. Don't get married. Woman claims single motherhood. Dad buys house and rents it out to single mother girlfriend. The state covers the childs expenses and pays the mortgage. Mom can even get some schooling paid for.



I wasn't making a shot at single mothers personally just that it is a major factor in the decline of our society. Single parents cannot as easily provide a stable environment for their children and in some area we have hords of unsupervised children who's only real structure is provided by the state.
Not arguing with your point about single parents, but this day and age, I see a lot of kids from two parent houses running just was wild in the streets. The parents both work leaving the kids alone in the afternoons and early evenings. Sometimes it's the poorer neighborhoods, but I've run across quite a few hellions from the better neighborhoods as well. Their parents have bought into the whole big house, right neighborhood, fancy car keeping up with the Jones (pretty big deal where I live, VERY affluent area) so BOTH parents are working long hours to pay for it all. The kids wind up raised by nannies if they're lucky, day care if they're not. Then left to their own devices as they get older.
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