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Old September 17th, 2017, 09:49 PM   #21
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I thought the Ayn Randian crowd was all about individual liberty ? Is that only the case when you personally agree ? LOL
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Old September 17th, 2017, 11:26 PM   #22
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I assumed that you would have watched the news story about this since it is from your nation and in your general field. I will find it later of you want. I don't have time for it right now. The family (mother and child) have moved to England for a fresh start. The mother admits in an interview to supplying him/her w/ the drugs and they are getting surgery to have the breasts removed. The "dr" is also interviewed. I did not post the story cuz people don't watch videos but they do from time to time read blurbs.

Yes, there are people who are infavor of doing this to children. That is the point of this thread.
the doctor wasnt. he did the right thing by waiting and ensuring it was a persisting situation, and didnt give a kneejerk response. mum fed her someone elses drugs illegally. this is an article about why you should listen to your doctor.

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None of this is "the norm" that is the point.
so why post it? this isnt an article about "transgender people", its an article about "stupid parent who thinks she knows more than the experts". there is no reason to think this is ever going to be the norm.
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Also the reality star (jasmine I think) is having that disgusting surgery because the hormones were given to early.
if you mean this jasmine;

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Jazz’s dad also suggested that she should consider the life-changing operation for after she finishes high school, to which she responded: ‘It is ultimately my decision.
Read more: Jazz Jennings gets emotional on new series of I Am Jazz | Metro News

maybe you meant someone else.
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Old September 18th, 2017, 04:13 AM   #24
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Read more: Jazz Jennings gets emotional on new series of I Am Jazz | Metro News

maybe you meant someone else.
Sabcat is al about individual liberty. Perhaps someone has hacked his DTT account.........LOL
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Old September 18th, 2017, 07:57 AM   #26
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the doctor wasnt. he did the right thing by waiting and ensuring it was a persisting situation, and didnt give a kneejerk response. mum fed her someone elses drugs illegally. this is an article about why you should listen to your doctor.


so why post it? this isnt an article about "transgender people", its an article about "stupid parent who thinks she knows more than the experts". there is no reason to think this is ever going to be the norm.

I agree, and think for the most part you and I agree on this issue.

There are people who feel that it is up to the kids. That theses confused children are somehow heros for coming out as trans. In this victim points, attention whore culture this combined w/ the transtrenders and virtue singnling parents is a recipe for disaster.

Little tommy plays w/ dolls, let's ask him.

Fucked up mom : hey tommy, do you want to be a girl.

6yo tommy after watching a marathon of Disney films: yes


Well that's it. It's Tammy now. Look how progressive of a parent I am. I accept my 6yo trans kid. Look at me. Look at me.


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Here is joe rogan and ben shapiro on the subject. Very interesting.


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wonder if he was on hormone blockers that will cause him to not develop sexually? Sad what happened to Jazz Jennings
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Old September 18th, 2017, 04:25 PM   #29
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I agree, and think for the most part you and I agree on this issue.

There are people who feel that it is up to the kids. That theses confused children are somehow heros for coming out as trans. In this victim points, attention whore culture this combined w/ the transtrenders and virtue singnling parents is a recipe for disaster.

Little tommy plays w/ dolls, let's ask him.

Fucked up mom : hey tommy, do you want to be a girl.

6yo tommy after watching a marathon of Disney films: yes


Well that's it. It's Tammy now. Look how progressive of a parent I am. I accept my 6yo trans kid. Look at me. Look at me.


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pretty sure we do agree. part of the transgender situation is recognising that teenagers can be confused, moody, can and do go through phases and try on different identities. thats why the medical approach is to acknowledge that someone may be trans and then do nothing permanent until years have passed and its certain that the trans-ness is a persisting phenomena. THEN you do something.

if a child wanted a spider tattooed on their face and their parents said "its good they are expressing themselves, who am i to judge, everyone should respect his choices" and actually allowed their child to have a spider tattooed on their face, that would be idiotic. but the parent might consider it healthy liberal values, a sign of independence and self expression. i would consider this a form of child abuse, a total failure of a parent to be a parent, and a terrible outcome. i think you would agree. and i think a parent who gives their 10 year old son female hormones is in the same category for the same reasons. but the problem isnt transgenderness itself, the problem is idiotic parents.
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pretty sure we do agree. part of the transgender situation is recognising that teenagers can be confused, moody, can and do go through phases and try on different identities. thats why the medical approach is to acknowledge that someone may be trans and then do nothing permanent until years have passed and its certain that the trans-ness is a persisting phenomena. THEN you do something.

if a child wanted a spider tattooed on their face and their parents said "its good they are expressing themselves, who am i to judge, everyone should respect his choices" and actually allowed their child to have a spider tattooed on their face, that would be idiotic. but the parent might consider it healthy liberal values, a sign of independence and self expression. i would consider this a form of child abuse, a total failure of a parent to be a parent, and a terrible outcome. i think you would agree. and i think a parent who gives their 10 year old son female hormones is in the same category for the same reasons. but the problem isnt transgenderness itself, the problem is idiotic parents.

We have this being not only introduced but pushed on children from a very young age and there is the narrative that it is child abuse if you do not entertain these delusions where I would think that in most cases it should be the exact opposit.


What if your child wanted to be blind and identified as a blind person? Would you give them surgery to make them blind?

If you did that you would be concidered a monster yet people are entertaining this in children all the time and when they are making choices to stop puberty (or what not) because of this these are irreversible decisions. I believe that the negative repercussions of these actions should be openly talked about as this has become such a mainstream "issue" but when you bring things like this up you are dubbed a "transphobic".
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