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Old June 3rd, 2018, 08:45 AM   #41
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The Central Library is open in Columbus and built by steel magnate Andrew Carnegie. Three stories high and all made of marble including the steps from Marble Cliff, Ohio. Andrew donated his millions to build marble Libraries all over the US and Scotland. Read the books and college is a wasted effort.
1. Maybe Andrew was trying to buy his way into heaven after creating a steel monopoly that enriched himself/while impoverishing millions...besides indirectly murdering strikers at his steel plants by means of Pinkerton goon squads! Maybe an angel came down and told him he was rich here...but on his way to H - E - Double Hockey Sticks afterwards!

2. He got the fucking Carnegie name plastered all over the place and changed its association from the worst crimes of capitalism to one of high art and good works...
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Old June 3rd, 2018, 08:48 AM   #42
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I wouldn't expect you to get it, but the college racket is going to turn more women into debt servants than men for the same reason that so called "FLAT" taxes disproportionately take more money out of the hands of lower income people than rich....like they say: 'how many yachts, cars and mansions can you actually use?'....I knew you wouldn't get it!
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Old June 3rd, 2018, 08:52 AM   #43
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I also graduated from college debt free.

I'm not foolish - nor arrogant - enough to think that my privileged upbringing is the experience that most people live through.
It used to be a common experience way back when....when higher education costs could be payed off with a summer job, and the only misgivings most of us plebes had about spending another 4 years in school was about time wasted....do we really need it (not so much back then!) and not how the hell are we going to pay for it.

I'm waiting for TNV's grandchildren to line up at his front door for their college funding, and see if he can afford that to! If so, then he's not middle class by any real world standard.
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Old June 3rd, 2018, 08:56 AM   #44
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Regarding the "worst 8 years of Economy in US HISTORY", lol. Never heard of the Great Depression, huh? That was ALSO brought about by stupid Republican policies and lack of oversight.

You really need to plant your feet in reality sometime.
Great Depression food tastes good to me.
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I also graduated from college debt free.

I'm not foolish - nor arrogant - enough to think that my privileged upbringing is the experience that most people live through.
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You realize--going into debt for college is a choice, and by no means necessitated. It would be trivially easy to go to college in the US debt free with a bit (and I mean just a bit) of planning.
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Great Depression food tastes good to me.
Some of it is, for sure. My parents are both nearly 90 and used to feed me the same type meals they had in the Depression.
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You realize--going into debt for college is a choice, and by no means necessitated. It would be trivially easy to go to college in the US debt free with a bit (and I mean just a bit) of planning.
Depends on the situation. Some people are physically incapable of working their way through school.
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Depends on the situation. Some people are physically incapable of working their way through school.
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No--it does not depend on the situation, as the 'situation' is we live in America and the opportunity is easily afforded to anyone who is willing & able to participate.
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No--it does not depend on the situation, as the 'situation' is we live in America and the opportunity is easily afforded to anyone who is willing & able to participate.
oh, so all that's needed is "opportunity and ability to participate"? That's different from when I went to college. Back in those days they only accepted cash or checks.
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oh, so all that's needed is "opportunity and ability to participate"? That's different from when I went to college. Back in those days they only accepted cash or checks.
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"Back in your day", college was cheaper, much cheaper--and it is still trivial to attend with little to no debt. Also, debt is not even a bad thing whatsoever when used wisely--in fact, it is leverage. It becomes a problem when an extremely irresponsible and reckless person utilizes it.
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