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Old January 31st, 2010, 10:43 AM   #1
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Stop Calling Us Racist!

This goes out to all of the Democrats or Liberals out there that continue to call the Republicans and Conservatives "racist" because we simply did not vote for Obama. Let's bust out our history books and turn to the pages regarding the 1964 Civil Rights Act. If you do a little bit of research, you will find out that a greater percentage of Republicans than Democrats voted FOR the Civil Rights Act (Repub.- 80% and Dem.- 63%). Do you realize that a little less than half of the Democrats (the party Obama represents) voted against the Civil Rights Act? Yet, many of you guys still have the audacity to call us, Republicans and Conservatives, "racist." All I have to say, is please get your facts right before making ridiculous assumptions.



P.S. Did it ever occur to you guys that we didn't vote for Obama simply because we thought his policies weren't the best thing for this nation?
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Old January 31st, 2010, 11:00 AM   #2
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Who is calling you a racist?
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Old January 31st, 2010, 11:02 AM   #3
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Who is calling you a racist?


Following the latest presidential election, I have had a plethora of people call me a racist because I didn't vote for Obama.
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Borden I never heard anyone seriously make that accusation against Republican voters
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Following the latest presidential election, I have had a plethora of people call me a racist because I didn't vote for Obama.




How many is a plethora?
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How many is a plethora?


If you are looking for an exact number, then I don't have one. All I know, is that it has been a lot.
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Borden I never heard anyone seriously make that accusation against Republican voters


Really? I find that hard to believe, but there is no way that I can prove you wrong.



Well, I have been called one simply because I didn't vote for Obama. Why? Because I didn't agree with his views.
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This goes out to all of the Democrats or Liberals out there that continue to call the Republicans and Conservatives "racist" because we simply did not vote for Obama. Let's bust out our history books and turn to the pages regarding the 1964 Civil Rights Act. If you do a little bit of research, you will find out that a greater percentage of Republicans than Democrats voted FOR the Civil Rights Act (Repub.- 80% and Dem.- 63%). Do you realize that a little less than half of the Democrats (the party Obama represents) voted against the Civil Rights Act? Yet, many of you guys still have the audacity to call us, Republicans and Conservatives, "racist." All I have to say, is please get your facts right before making ridiculous assumptions.


-A Democratic Prersident signed the act into law.



-More Democrats than Republicans voted for the bill in the House and Senate.



The original House version:

Democratic Party: 152-96 (61%-39%)

Republican Party: 138-34 (80%-20%)



Cloture in the Senate:

Democratic Party: 44-23 (66%-34%)

Republican Party: 27-6 (82%-18%)



The Senate version:

Democratic Party: 46-21 (69%-31%)

Republican Party: 27-6 (82%-18%)



The Senate version, voted on by the House:

Democratic Party: 153-91 (63%-37%)

Republican Party: 136-35 (80%-20%)





-It's easily proven that opposition to the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was regional as opposed to being along party lines.



House bill:

Southern Democrats: 7-87 (7%-93%)

Southern Republicans: 0-10 (0%-100%)

Northern Democrats: 145-9 (94%-6%)

Northern Republicans: 138-24 (85%-15%)



Senate Bill:

Southern Democrats: 1-20 (5%-95%)

Southern Republicans: 0-1 (0%-100%)

Northern Democrats: 45-1 (98%-2%)

Northern Republicans: 27-5 (84%-16%)



Southern Democrats AND Republicans were opposed to the bill.

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Really? I find that hard to believe, but there is no way that I can prove you wrong.



Well, I have been called one simply because I didn't vote for Obama. Why? Because I didn't agree with his views.


So who is calling you a racist? You said people still are.
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-A Democratic Prersident signed the act into law.



-More Democrats than Republicans voted for the bill in the House and Senate.



The original House version:

Democratic Party: 152-96 (61%-39%)

Republican Party: 138-34 (80%-20%)



Cloture in the Senate:

Democratic Party: 44-23 (66%-34%)

Republican Party: 27-6 (82%-18%)



The Senate version:

Democratic Party: 46-21 (69%-31%)

Republican Party: 27-6 (82%-18%)



The Senate version, voted on by the House:

Democratic Party: 153-91 (63%-37%)

Republican Party: 136-35 (80%-20%)





-It's easily proven that opposition to the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was regional as opposed to being along party lines.



House bill:

Southern Democrats: 7-87 (7%-93%)

Southern Republicans: 0-10 (0%-100%)

Northern Democrats: 145-9 (94%-6%)

Northern Republicans: 138-24 (85%-15%)



Senate Bill:

Southern Democrats: 1-20 (5%-95%)

Southern Republicans: 0-1 (0%-100%)

Northern Democrats: 45-1 (98%-2%)

Northern Republicans: 27-5 (84%-16%)



Southern Democrats AND Republicans were opposed to the bill.

Civil Rights Act of 1964 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Democrats made up 78% of the "No" vote, however.



Sure, LBJ signed the bill into action and received a majority of the credit, but what did he really do besides sign it? Everett Dirckson should receive all credit for this bill because he wrote a compromise bill that was able to attract enough votes to kill a filibuster. Guess what? He was a Republican Senator!



If you look at the evidence, then you will see that the Republicans deserve most of the credit in getting this bill into action.
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Really? I find that hard to believe, but there is no way that I can prove you wrong.



Well, I have been called one simply because I didn't vote for Obama. Why? Because I didn't agree with his views.




Do you live in one of those backward 'flyover' states where everyone carries guns and drives F150's and Larry the Cable Guy would get elected if he ever ran for office?
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So who is calling you a racist? You said people still are.


There are plenty of die hard Democrats that I have come into contact with in everyday life that have called me a racist or that I have racist beliefs because I am a Republican/ Conservative who didn't vote for Obama.
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Do you live in one of those backward 'flyover' states where everyone carries guns and drives F150's and Larry the Cable Guy would get elected if he ever ran for office?


No, I live in Southeastern Wisconsin.
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Democrats made up 78% of the "No" vote, however.



Sure, LBJ signed the bill into action and received a majority of the credit, but what did he really do besides sign it? Everett Dirckson should receive all credit for this bill because he wrote a compromise bill that was able to attract enough votes to kill a filibuster. Guess what? He was a Republican Senator!



If you look at the evidence, then you will see that the Republicans deserve most of the credit in getting this bill into action.


Despite the majority of the "yes" votes coming from Democrats?



Except for nearly all of the lawmakers from the former Confederate states, Democrats and Republicans came together to vote for the bill.
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There are plenty of die hard Democrats that I have come into contact with in everyday life that have called me a racist or that I have racist beliefs because I am a Republican/ Conservative who didn't vote for Obama.


What? Random people just blurt out "RACIST!!!" whenever they see you at work or walking down the street?
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Despite the majority of the "yes" votes coming from Democrats?



Except for nearly all of the lawmakers from the former Confederate states, Democrats and Republicans came together to vote for the bill.


No, the majority of the "Yes" votes came from the Republicans. If you don't believe me, then look up Jim Sparkman's article "Letter Sets Record Straight on GOP's Civil Right Stand" which was on ChronWatch.com, January 2, 2003.
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What? Random people just blurt out "RACIST!!!" whenever they see you at work or walking down the street?


No, not quite. I speak with people on an everyday basis.
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Look out for the accusations of racism when the GOP fires Michael Steele after the 2010 elections
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No, the majority of the "Yes" votes came from the Republicans.


I just gave you the statistics that proved otherwise.
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I just gave you the statistics that proved otherwise.


Yes, you did give me statistics. The Republicans had a consistent 80%+ "Yes" vote for both the House and Senate bills while the Democrats had a consistent 60-60% "Yes" vote. Who had the majority? The Republicans!
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