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Old May 15th, 2018, 04:34 PM   #51
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What a moronic post.

Snopes is a bipartisan fact checking site. Fake news rumors about political affiliations are a lie.

https://www.factcheck.org/2009/04/snopescom/

Can you list your favorite "scources"?
But what's better is that the Snopes article categorically stated that no illegal votes were cast due to the incident they reported. So in fact he was arguing against himself. But he's getting like TNV and just ignores facts.
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Old May 17th, 2018, 12:04 PM   #52
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AND......would you like to explain WHAT you meant?
Sorry for the late reply. Sure. In my mind, there is a big difference between a sincere empathetic apology between two humans and the subtle betrayal of superiority in the shallowness of a hypocritical virtue signaling apology in shaming one self and a entire group for being born white. As if any of us have a choice in the color of our skin. It is not only alienating but also insulting for everybody caught in such a discussion.
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Old May 20th, 2018, 06:00 PM   #53
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Most of the white liberal responders got it right that voter ID laws are being used to target those on the economic margins....but this doesn't mean that it falls strictly along racial lines, or that there is no such thing as a black middle class or upper middle class that don't have the same economic interests as the black majority...no doubt these are the blacks that this Ami is talking to and screening out those who don't have PROPER ID.


The Republican right can't directly discriminate against black because of race, so they have to take advantage of the prevailing economic disadvantages and demand forms of identification that those of a lower economic strata are likely to possess...like a driver's licence...who's going to have a drivers licence if they can't afford to own a car for example? And I'm sure they don't mind taking out white voters who are similarly on the margins and not part of their target demographics.
Also worth noting that he had nothing to say after the one girl's comment about disenfranchising those with criminal records (and of course African Americans make up a higher percentage of those incarcerated, and she also mentioned Florida...a state that likely wouldn't even be Republican today if it were not for an undemocratic rule that prevents all former convicts from ever voting for the rest of their lives. Most real democracies not only allow former convicts to vote, but even those who are incarcerated...seeing it as a small step to getting convicts back into being part of society again.

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Old May 21st, 2018, 03:00 AM   #54
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If you follow the link you'll find that the dead voters weren't registered as Democrats, and that they didn't vote...

This thread has become a parade of the willfully ignorant, the "I don't know and I don't want to know" morons of the right.
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There's a link that is targeting morons with a factoid based argument.

Want to know how I can tell it's aimed at morons?

It raises questions, but doesn't provide answers, not because the answers aren't known, but because the answers would interfere with the message the piece is trying to deliver to the morons.
It's a good example of Fake News.
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Old May 21st, 2018, 08:12 AM   #56
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Actually, I agree with you on the misuse of the term Liberal. It's the far Left that is doing the damage. But, over a long period of time the term Liberal has taken on the description of the far-Left.
This is off subject, but might it possible that we need the word liberal to mean our liberty is the right to decide right and wrong for ourselves, rather than live under an authority that determines right and wrong for us? With that goes the understanding that morals are a matter of consequences. If things go well or go very badly depends on our ability to determine cause and effect and make good choices. Might we lean towards a police state ruling over chaos without that understanding?

Being liberals does not work when people are ignorant. Our liberty depends on education for good moral judgment and science. Good judgment also depends on having some economic understanding. Prejudice that leads to economic disadvantage will lead to a poor class and all the problems of poverty. When this the reality, it is necessary to take steps to correct the problem.

There are other reasons for poverty other than skin color and here again there are strong prejudices built on false beliefs and steps need to be taking to change this. That makes my liberal on the left.
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Being liberals does not work when people are ignorant.
Which is exactly why so many people in this country self-identify as conservatives and cheer on Dear Leader.

There is nothing easier or have less knowledge required than to be selfish, self-centered, and greedy.
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Which is exactly why so many people in this country self-identify as conservatives and cheer on Dear Leader.

There is nothing easier or have less knowledge required than to be selfish, self-centered, and greedy.
This is a perfect example of two people conversing, neither of whom payed attention in English class.
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oh, yes, and you're a regular fuckin brain trust

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Old May 22nd, 2018, 03:43 AM   #60
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Since the slave-owning rapists spread their 'white' genes so widely and many 'black' cousins 'passed for white' (because they were), why on earth do Americans go on and on with these ridiculous family squabbles?
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